I am done trying to argue with the close minded people on here. For a site of magic and witches people on this site have a very linear thinking. I have realized that I cannot change the minds of the many without proof. It is like trying to cut water. Anybody who wants to learn real magic should send me a message. And if nobody does then that is fine too. I wish all the people of the forums good luck. And to the rest of you I extent this challenge. Try to see more of the world than science will let you see. Try and open your mind and free your spirit as well as your TRUE magic. From this part on I will only teach people who want to be taught and weigh my opinion on the chats for informational purposes only.
You shouldn't allow people to get to you but at the same time you can't force them to listen and change their beliefs. In the end your probably making a wise choice, I am of the mind anything is possible and where's there's a will there's a way, though I'm also a realist which makes me contradictory. Anyway believe what you want if it makes you happy. PS. Your comment about "real" magick though is a bit condescending and I haven't read your posts and such so I have no idea what you believe "real" magick to, but people can believe in magick and define it in different ways as some would classify something as natural as birth magick.
I'd like to point out that science and Magick are different facets of the same thing. Science's domain is the physical realm while Magick is rooted in the subtle realms. Each is connected, yes, but not entirely the same.
It's not science that limits peoples' views, it is the scientists that say things like Magick isn't real and even then, not all scientists believe in only the physical.
Haha, do not try to force the flow of the river, do not try to cut water, do not try to contain air, and do not try to hold fire. Non of these will give freely to anyone without a fight. There are many people out there who have beautiful minds and can make anything posible in there heads. Thus trying to tell them whats posible or whats imposible is just plain useless. When one try to take someone out of their corse nomatter how imposible the corse is, its even more imposible to change their minds. So its just funny when threads like this shows up, about being angry or upset that people can't get things right. Well one thing I had learned is that once they are ready to know the truth they will open up to it, if they're not then nomatter what you do or say, nomatter how much proof you have they will still not belive you. Haha so why don't we just stand back and observe and learn from them. It could be fun.
Fun until some beginner takes his 'teachings' seriously and gets frustrated when it doesn't work and closes their mind indefinitely towards Magick. It's why we have a bad reputation among the mainstream.