Re: My take on magic By: Brysing Moderator / Adept
Post # 5 Nov 20, 2011
I find the idea of casting spells in "old Pagan English" (Whatever that is!) and ancient Latin quite amusing.
A spell is the intention of your Mind. It has nothing to do with language. Many who use magic all over the world cannot speak "old English", or Latin for that matter!
Old pagan is old english Doh .Old spells in latan have way more gravitas then anything you could write. Plus spells from your mind will stay there dream boy lol
Shefro having a website is very fun. He has only just found out about the net. Can`t even text bless him. But magic thats different story. Sorry for bad spelling earlier having a bad day at the office x
Agreed. Chanting in certain languages raises energy through sound. And oh, not just latin... there several mystical languages that are wayyy older.
After perhaps raising that kind of energy, I would channel it through a combination of intent and a language that I understand. I like to be absolutely sure about what I want that energy to manifest. Dont want to be blabbering something that fudges with my intent.
People sometimes get so wound up about raising energy, that they often forget that they're suppose to channel it.
Re: My take on magic By: Brysing Moderator / Adept
Post # 10 Nov 21, 2011
I am merely trying to point out that magic is used all over the world, in many languages.Old English and Latin are European in origin, and, to a European they may well have significance. But they would not mean much to the Chinese, or African witchdoctors.
I am not meaning to insult anybody.
Re: My take on magic By: AwakeTooLong / Knowledgeable
Post # 11 Nov 21, 2011
Raising energy through voice and vibration is certainly useful, but not the only method.
"Old english pagan" is not a language. Old English is a language, yes. If we start looking at other pagan influences maybe we think of Welsh, Gaelic, Saxon, or even the influence of Latin/French.
Languages such as Latin perhaps possess the vibration, but you can do the same thing with other languages. As I've expressed repeatedly, if you look at translations of traditional occult practices such as the Book of Abramelin, you will sometimes find those who wrote the works actually expression that spoken word be in your native tongue, so you are comfortable and it have more meaning to you. Vibration is tonal, after all, and can be used within any language through inflection and such.
One of the aspects of where another language influences things is that modern language has been created to be specific and concise. Older languages often have words or phrases that can mean many things at once. While a modern sentence means just one thing (if we're lucky), an older phrase can mean several. So metaphors, ideas, and so forth can be combined within a single sentence and expressed with just a few words... If you are fully aware of this, it brings much to what you speak.
However, this complexity can be similarly layered through imagery, prose, etc. within modern language as well.
Casually casting stones about the importance of language in magic seems to cheapen your own arguments, as much as casual dismissal might as well.