Ah so you advocate ignoring important facts that can safeguard and protect a person from harm not because you disagree with the material, but because you simply don't like the source. I see, that is rather petty, as well as putting people at risk, if you believe in Astral projection. I get the feeling people like stonicus and the other person that seconding him come here only to stroke their own egos, nothing more. They clearly have no concern for the well being of the people here, not when they tell them to ignore important information because they don't like the person giving it. Like I said, petty, vindictive, and all too concerned about saving face and getting back at other for imagined sleights. Does that sound like the kind of person you should be taking advice from? To be honest though I have heard no advice, good or bad, from either of these people, just a lot of personal issues they like to stir up, or just cause problems. Telling someone thinking about astral projection to ignore real dangers and warnings of such, just because you have a personal beef with the person giving the warnings, that's just irresponsible. Don't care how long you've been here stonicus, that's way out of line.
Like I said, not about you and me, and if a person can't detach themselves emotionally from a situation than they should probably not comment. The issue was one of offering valid advice that warns of real dangers. If you can't get on board with that stonicus and friend, than maybe you should go elsewhere if you can't separate your personal feelings from the obligation you should have to aid those that clearly need it.
Personally the only opinionated personal feelings coming from this post is from you Magustaus01
Why should anyone give your advice any consideration when you can't back it up with fact, do you actually know anyone whose died from AP? and if you do how would you know that was the cause unless they came back to tell you!
And why should anyone take advice from someone who can't even have a short bio about himself/herself on their profile?
The only way I'm aware you can die is if someone comes in and murders your physical body while your doing astral projection, then in that case your properly well and truly buggered but then if someone was going do that in the first place you would in trouble either way.
As far as I know The Monroe Institute has never claimed that it's dangerous maybe I'm wrong and maybe they have but if they have I'm not aware of it!
But basically it's down to the person trying to achieve astral projection wither they wish to believe there is something to fear, saying that fear is the biggest block to not achieving astral projection.
And no doubt you will go another opinionated rant!
No doubt. It's not my job to go out and find readily available information and present it to you. I did my home work long ago, and have been involved in the occult for 30 plus years now, so I know of what I speak. If you had done your home work you would know all of the information I provided, and that it is quite valid. I suggest you do what even the most lazy person can do, stop isolating yourself on this website, where you are not challenged with new information, or with the idea that you might be wrong, and go do some research. If you are not aware of any of the things I spoke of than you really are way out of line chiding me. This is general, 101 type knowledge that any first grader in the occult should know. You are not even aware of the most simple things, so my advice, stop spending all your time on this website, and relying on it as your only resource, and get out into the world, you might actually learn something. Either way, all you seem capable of now is asking for things from others you should already know yourself. Bye bye ;)
As for people dying from astral projection, the phenomenon itself is relatively rare, despite what people on here say about being able to do it. I advocate not doing it at all, or even trying to because of the dangers. Please use that tool which even the laziest SOB can avail themselves of, google, and find some of this information for yourself. You might have to do multiple searches, and God forbid actually check out more than one website, instead of anchoring yourself to a single place. Might even take hours or days, yes the hardship of it, I know. Eventually you will find the specific information I speak of. You will find that the internet also might not be the best place to find knowledge, or understanding. Going by your total lack of it, you are totally ignorant, though you may have only posted your message to get in on the fun, so to speak, join the crowd, participate with the mob, be one of the guys, and join in on the flaming that's been going on. I'd suggest silence in the future, as all you seem able to do is to criticize without adding anything to the conversation. Unless you have something to actually add to the topic, I'd say don't add anything. Good bye ;)
Re: 8 weeks and still can't By: Bloodmage01 / Novice
Post # 16 Mar 21, 2011
Look, Magustaus. The only way anyone can die from astral projection is the same way they can die through doing any type of magic,over exerting themselves. If anyone uses too much energy, they have a heart attack, or even burst into flame.
You misunderstand me, i was speaking of astral projection being relatively rare, not people dying from it.
As for how they can die, there is one sure fire way, having the etherial tether that connects you to your body cut by some outside force, be it demonic, or another human being also traveling astrally.
As I said, few people can actually astrally travel, and few do. What many people think is astral travel is actually lucid dreaming, and people just can't tell the difference.
People make a lot of claims on this website, that if they were better informed they would not. However if they were better informed they would not feel the need to make such claims, as they would be secure people.
Anyhow, you need to do a lot more research, and also spend more time in places other than this sight. The sad thing about the occult is it attracts many people who are teach themselves, without guidance, hence they get magic and the occult mixed up with things like religion, another major mistake to make.
Anyhow you have never traveled astrally, that much is for certain. Take care.
Re: 8 weeks and still can't By: Bloodmage01 / Novice
Post # 18 Mar 21, 2011
I'm not sure you understand. There is no etherial connection that can be cut to make you die. I do not deny that there is a connection, just that they can be cut.
Also, I do not spend as much time on this site as you might believe, it's just i leave this tab open and have my computer in sleep mode.
It shows you have great ignorance that you say astral projection is rare, in fact, it is practiced in many places at many times, sometimes by me which is another fact you got wrong, for you said that i had never astral projected.
It is true people make claims on this site like the infamous cyril98 and more recently, it seems, you are following that path.
I also do not mistake magic for religion, though i recognize that some magic can be achieved through gods.
I really feel sorry for you for having the need to put down others to feel good about yourself.
Re: 8 weeks and still can't By: Bloodmage01 / Novice
Post # 20 Mar 21, 2011
Amazing. I cannot think of one person save cyril98 who has been this rude. To anyone.
I really feel sorry for you. Please stop being a jerk and maybe we can be friends.
