Teach, don't bite

Why do we keep having the same thread over and over again?? The problem here is not magick, it is not experience, nor is it intellience. It is pure and simple Agism! The young complain about it, while behaving in the same way towards the mature! The mature forget that they were ever young! In wicca, as a good example, the 3 faces of both the God and the Goddess *include* the youth, the parent, and the grandparent. The whole point is that we work together! How on earth can we take the pleas of the young seriously when they are behaving in the way that they are arguing against? Really children, you are being as predjudiced as you claim others are being towards you! Do you not think that older people were young once? Please quit this predjudice behaviour, all of you! The three faces were meant to compliment each other, not to compete!

~Zebrah.

In my 4 years of being on this site , I have seen the older more experienced beat down the younger curious generation with snide snappy remarks!! You Rashnu /Healer are one of the biggest egotistical people on here !!! Yeah I said it so what!!! think back to your power hungry mod days ;)

Well that helped your case, Sorrow :)

Personally I think many Of my peers need it... Them being teens, many don't even want to put in time, that to not to say that I see some fully grown adults coming on here for fluffy spells like, need love spell quick!, and eccetra. Basically many of the people on this site ARE fluffies no matter what age they are, stupidity doesn't go away with age unfortunately. So basically yes these people need to be bitten a little to learn.

Well here's the thing. It gets old really quick when you make several attempts to teach and they flat out refuse to listen. Im more of the "tough love" type of approach as harsh as it may seem. It's not that I won't hold someone's hand while they're learning because I'm happy to do so. But there is somethings you just have to learn on your own and not be spoon feed information, as that does not give you experience. Perhaps blame shouldn't be passed off on the "teachers" but rather the students interest in something and want to learn more than just they think they. That's my two cents.

Quite right Maat. I'm sure we all hated our most important, and most loving, teachers of all, at some point. Our parents or guardians. It is usual for children to resent their elders. :)

im a teen ( 14) , and i take magick seriosly . I dont even get where people get the idea that they can become vamps , wearwolfs, and mermaids, etc. I get that hollywood makes it seem like they can but dont they understand thats its just a movie , or a tv show. I watched charmed my whole life , and when i started i knew it was going to be snap by fingers and something happens . All it takes is a little logic to fiqure that out .
And how some of the spells on this website are stupid ( by some i mean alot) . I dont think that spell casters should be a coven anymore , becuase it lets inexperinced people post spells. Im not saying that im a expert in magick , becuase i still have ALOT to learn , but spell caster there might be a 100 people that are expericed , and acutly have common sense when it comes to spells , but not all .

It's not about self hate to be honest. Being critical on yourself can be one of the motivators to achieve more, However it's up to the student to want to learn, not the teachers to force it. So what it boils down to when you have tried everything place the blame on student rather than the teacher. As they have tried their best.

Teaching, helping, mentoring and the like is a thankless job. One most of us do knowing it's a thankless job but do it anyways because every now and then there is that student who gives you hope through their dedication.

No one remembers when people have been kind and helpful. No one remembers or even knows when people have privately taken on students to help them or just listen to them.

What is remembered, is what is considered the "negative". And frankly, that's a no win situation.

If you tell someone the truth, you're mean.
If you tell someone to try something else, you're mean.
If you tell someone to try harder and push themselves, you're mean.

Pretty much if you do anything other than agree with them and give them a working whatever to accomplish what ever the new Fab thing is, you are mean, a stick in the mud, old and grumpy and unhelpful.

And yet we stay here, day after day, hoping against hope that someone listens and betters their life, their spirituality and their path.

I'd have to agree with Zeb XD.
Im not quite sure why wrote a thread like this to begin with as there are practically a few threads ongoing about this sort of thing. First of all, There Has been people asking about this sort of stuff out of curiosity in the chatter and they've been giving answers and opinions by experienced Practitioners.
One out of ten times those 'fluffies' would leave out their said fantasies and sincerely ask where to begin and how to start on this path. There has been no 'biting' them and at the most are being helped on where to go and what to do.
The other nine times, they'd stubbornly refuse any logic or opinions thrown at them and stamp their feet demanding they are right or that they're some 'mythical creature'. Now tell me, I understand the chatter is used for asking questions but how often do you think this sort of people flood in? It makes the chatter only less desired to be used and not to mention they don't accept the help that they initially asked for. Patience only can go so far for each person, on the other hand if they did have that sincerity to begin with. I'm sure they'd be guided properly. Or snap out of their fantasies and actually take opinions into consideration.
You can lead a horse to the river, can make it drink the water unless it has the desire to do so.