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Re: Maybe Your Wrong?
By: / Beginner
Post # 11
Proof or evidence is considered so by observation, irrefutable facts, and statistics that conclude a hypothesis to be true.

Now...Prove how the Earth was created
(specifically I mean how it came to be, not the formation thereafter initial creation)


No one saw it, so observation is out. No other planets that can support life have been created for us to witness so statistical data is out. No one can seem to make up their mind exactly how our solar system was created, let alone the planets within, so irrefutable facts is out. There are theories, suggestions, hypothesis, ect. But no hard facts as to how exactly the Earth was created from nothing into something that can support life.


When looking it up you will see words like "theory" or "widely accepted". That's not proof. Since it can't be proven how, then logically it cannot exist, correct?


But we know it exists. We see it. Smell it. Taste it. Feel it.

That seems to be proof enough that the planet was created. So why not the same standards for magick and spiritual experiences?

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Re: Maybe Your Wrong?
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Post # 12
ive gotten successful results because of my magick, so i believe it is real. but i personally could never convince you that magick is real, that is if you need proof to believe so. only you can find the proof for yourself. :/
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Re: Maybe Your Wrong?
By: / Beginner
Post # 13
If science is everything then explain the existence of this universe.

Scientists can only understand and make theories to the point of the big bang, anything further back scientists have not the faintest clue. Before the Universe, before time, before logic, there was a tiny tiny particle smaller than an atom with immense energy condensed into this "thing" no one knows where it came from, how it came to be, and no one knows what triggered this enormous explosion known as the big bang, perhaps it really was a God or Goddess or etc. that created the Universe. I'm being serious here, even though there are many things about magick that can't be explained, there are also many many things that science can't explain. I was brought up with magick being a very significant part of my life but I love science as well and some how I manage to combine the two together and so far there hasn't been any clashes.
Science relies on evidence, eg. sight, smell, touch, hear.... maybe taste... etc. etc. whilst magick or religion in any forms is about believing.

And can I just say science cannot explain emotions in general, and we see people cry, laugh etc. everyday. Just an example as to something science can't explain and its right in front of us.

Also also if you want a time travel spell. First get yourself a spaceship of some sort and go out into the universe to the point where the big bang occurred and according to scientists that is the very spot time was created and there time stands still.
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Re: Maybe Your Wrong?
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Post # 14

Perception my friend.

I can see where you're coming Agnostic, and frankly I think you have every right to question the existence of magic.

We all do at one point or another, why get mad when someone voices it?

There is no physical evidence that "magic" is the spiritual phenomena some religions, paths, and people make it out to be, I do not argue that. But this extremely subjective. Subjective in that, reality, is considered physical truth, yes?
Well, what is physical truth without perception?
Reality is what we make of it.
If it is accepted, Congress votes on it and everything, that dictionaries are to be deemed inappropriate for schools because they contain content that they believe children shouldn't be subject to, then that's reality. The reality for those Congressmen, is that Dictionaries are more harmful, than useful, regardless of whether or not they have physical proof, set in stone, that most children become traumatized after reading the definition for say, a cuss word they heard on TV. It's their reality. Frankly, I wouldn't be able to see how you could prove something like that without taking a frontrow seat's view constantly on the minds of a multitude of children.

To further my point, magic in my opinion, in general, is widely accepted as a word describing the happenings of nature. In fact many people consider magic to one in the same with science, you obviously accept science as a reliable source for information.
Magic universally defined in lamens terms: the constant changing and shifting of energy.
Energy most definitely changes, and shifts constantly, and there is hard evidence supporting that.

Now, I cannot speak in the same instance for those of religious faith, that is entirely, in my opinion, something chosen, either by the person, or by those who most directly influence the person.

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Re: Maybe Your Wrong?
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Post # 15

I suggest you research and read anything by Laurie Cabot or the Temple Series by Christopher Penczak. There's little that can be said better than is said in those books as to the Science of Magick.

By the way, "Accepted" Science can't explain Love either. Does that mean Love doesn't exist?

Research Energy (and basic Physical Science), Quantum Physics as it relates to Metaphysics/Magick, the 23 Gram Experiment and get some hands on experiene.

Afterall, If it doesn't exist, what would it hurt to try?

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