I'm an artist and tarot reader, albeit a broke undiscovered one, but I never get drunk. I also don't smoke or do any illegal drugs. Not saying I never did, I was young once upon a time. Regardless, to say all artists are drunks is a very unintelligent thing to say, not to mention unfair. I don't want people to see my work and say she is an alcoholic. And I have very vivid dreams without any inducers. Some of my most interesting dreams have been during a short afternoon nap on the couch. You don't need sleep inducers or wine or any other thing to have vivid dreams.
So what exactly from what we said is "unreasonable technicalities and acusations ".Also online courcess are not approved as reliable except if not official site of certain health organisation .Also so called witdraw is life threathening ordeal as many other proces of detoxification .So whywould someone possibly wnat torisk his life .Also you forget to mention that in the raw meat there are many intestinal worms and their eggsor larvae(especially swine and beef but other animals have them too ).That is why we cook our meat !You can not dismiss the fact that you are promoting things which are potentionally dangerous forpeoples health and i can not dismiss it either ,which has nothing to do with vendetta .If you are about to advice people you should take under count all factors physical ,mental and spiritual .I also smell paranoia .You need to come to term with the idea that your sources are nonreliable and that you have not taken under account all details and factors .I am afraid you are not good advicer in any meaning of that word .People please do not try any of this methods !
Acid, don't start calling people jerks and things as such the moment they start disagreeing. It's called constructive criticism, and you're going to get it often in life. Take it into consideration.
No, not all artists/musicians/etc were drunks, and no, they didn't always need things to induce their abilities.
''Alcohol consumed at bedtime, after an initial stimulating effect, may decrease the time required to fall asleep. Because of alcohol's sedating effect, many people with insomnia consume alcohol to promote sleep. However, alcohol consumed within an hour of bedtime appears to disrupt the second half of the sleep period.
The subject may sleep fitfully during the second half of sleep, awakening from dreams and returning to sleep with difficulty. With continued consumption just before bedtime, alcohol's sleep-inducing effect may decrease, while its disruptive effects continue or increase.
This sleep disruption may lead to daytime fatigue and sleepiness. The elderly are at particular risk, because they achieve higher levels of alcohol in the blood and brain than do younger persons after consuming an equivalent dose. Bedtime alcohol consumption among older persons may lead to unsteadiness if walking is attempted during the night, with increased risk of falls and injuries.
Alcoholic beverages are often consumed in the late afternoon (e.g., at "happy hour" or with dinner) without further consumption before bedtime. Studies show that a moderate dose1 of alcohol consumed as much as 6 hours before bedtime can increase wakefulness during the second half of sleep. By the time this effect occurs, the dose of alcohol consumed earlier has already been eliminated from the body, suggesting a relatively long-lasting change in the body's mechanisms of sleep regulation.
The adverse effects of sleep deprivation are increased following alcohol consumption. Subjects administered low doses of alcohol following a night of reduced sleep perform poorly in a driving simulator, even with no alcohol left in the body.
Reduced alertness may potentially increase alcohol's sedating effect in situations such as rotating sleep-wake schedules (e.g., shift work) and rapid travel across multiple time zones (i.e., jet lag).
A person may not recognize the extent of sleep disturbance that occurs under these circumstances, increasing the danger that sleepiness and alcohol consumption will co-occur.''
So in summary, this is a bad idea. Messing with your REM system really isnt that beneficial at all, and I don't even think it has that of a large impact on dreaming- as Artemisia said, REM depends on the state of your brain and alcohol isn't really doing much to help it.
After reading all that, do you really think it is such a good idea? I hope not.
I'd advise anybody reading this post not to take alcohol in order to aid in dreaming, art or music. Instead find other, non-harmful ways to aid in dreaming- jasmine incense, for example.
Also, could you give us your supposed source and more factual science behind alcohol affecting dreams? In addition what tests were done to how this was proved?
well, sorry, being a jerk isnt very intelegent either. if u dont like what i say, then dont listen to it. u r only proveing urslef to be rude. and yes, many musicians and artists in history were drunk. it was either motzart (yes, spelled wrong), or baytoven, died by passing out in a puddle, drunk
What is not correct in this statement ?
So far you have said nothing ,instead you have typed it ,therefore even if i would like to listen i can not .
The only person here who lacks manners is you .Since we do not take all this personal we have no reason to be rude ,my only concern is about kids following your potentially dangerous climes .Your own intelligence is not my concern ,neither my problem .
"The official record has it as "hitziges Frieselfieber" ("severe miliary fever",)Mozart became bedridden, suffering from swelling, pain, and vomiting".The cause of Mozarts death according official records and act of death .
Source :Wikipedia
Bethoven
The last day
News also arrived from the shores of the Rhine: editor Schott sent him from Manz a case of wine. But, Beethovens condition was so bad at this point that he barely took a sip of that wine.
On March 24th Beethoven signed his last will and testament , leaving everything he had to his nephew Karl. On the 26th, Breuning and Schindler went to see about a burial place at the cemetery, leaving Hutenbrenner alone with the now dying Beethoven.
Here is how Romain Rolland describes Beethovens final day: "That day was tragic. There were heavy clouds in the sky around 4 or 5 in the afternoon the murky clouds cast darkness in the entire room. Suddenly a terrible storm started, with blizzard and snow thunder made the room shudder, illuminating it with the cursed reflection of lightning on snow. Beethoven opened his eyes and with a threatening gesture raised his right arm towards the sky with his fist clenched. The expression of his face was horrifying. His hand fell to the ground. His eyes closed. Beethoven was no more." Source : http://www.all-about-beethoven.com/beethovenlastyears1.html
An autopsy was performed on 27 March by Dr. Johann Wagner. While it is unclear who ordered the autopsy, a specific request by Beethoven in his Heiligenstadt Testament may have played a role in the decision. [4] The autopsy revealed a severely cirrhotic and shrunken liver, of which ascites is a common consequence. Scholars disagree over whether Beethoven's liver damage was the result of heavy alcohol consumption, hepatic infection, or both. Hepatitis B and C are causes of cirrhosis, but they spread from contact with contaminated body fluids and were almost unknown in Beethoven's day. Hepatitis A on the other hand can be contracted from food and water that were not handled properly and was very common in the 19th century, although it does not cause liver cirrhosis or permanent organ damage.
Heavy metal contamination is thought to be a contributing factor in Beethoven's death as these were commonly used in the medicine of the time. It has also been theorized that he consumed large amounts of lead from illegally-fortified wine. This was a very common practice to sweeten cheap wines, and despite being outlawed in most European countries during the 18th century, the prohibition was difficult to enforce and production of lead-fortified wine (which originated in Roman times) continued unabated. There is no indication the composer had syphilis beyond a mercury treatment prescribed to him around 1815, but these were used for various other ailments as well.
Source :Wikipedia
So in last one case there are arguments what exactly damaged the liver either it is the wine ,the lead in the wine which is toxic or Hepatit B or C.So all of these factors back in epoca could have caused the reason for the death .Also he berelly sipped from this wine to die in puddle .And yes the case does proove partially that alchohol damage the liver over time (despite that may not be all the factors caused the death ).Lets not forget that medicine back then was not in same level neither the hygien and knowledge of heavy metals .You do not need to drink to can have certain types of Hepatite .And you do not need to drink to get lead posioning .
Well, you've got to remember, in the past, the definition of wine, like Artemisia said, may have been different and enhanced with other things.
Also I'm a student artist I guess you could say and I can whole-heartedly say that a lot of good artists I've seen just start drawing and get their inspiration from their ideas. I think 1 out of every 5 pieces I do actually has an intended symbolic meaning before I do it. Other times the idea just pops in my head or I go "Hey I want to paint a fish. Oh what about oil pastel on a black board...in orange! For...uh...wealth!"
So I'd say that was a very brash, assuming statement that "many artists" have to use wine to get their ideas.
