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Forgotten
Post # 8
Jul 03, 2008
Ermm you just think you are going to invoke djinn and he will make yours wishes come true?Very absurd,since humans have greater will power then any entity,you use yours will
And very interesting,i found black djinn,they have affinity towards any black element and are master of curses and hexes
i even found a way to invoke them [/quote]
On the subject of to just invoke a djinn, I suppose one could safely assume they would sufficate from smoke inhalation.
Here's a little lesson on the difference between INVOCATION AND EVOCATION.
There are basically two ways of summoning an entity or working with energy: "Evocation" and "Invocation." Evocation is summoning an entity whether it be a djinn, dragon, fairy, demon, spirit, deceased person, or any other elemental and the being appears outside of the operator. When working with energy, the energy is always on the outside of the operator and never inside his/her body. With evocation, there is never a direct tie or connection. Invocation is taking the spirit into ones self. The being actually enters the operator's body. An example is invoking a spirit and the spirit speaks through the operator using his/her voice to communicate. Often when this happens, ones voice may change, becoming deeper, raspy, or different in some way. During seances, often the medium is able to produce a substance called "ectoplasm" to provide a luminescent material in order for the evoked spirit to manifest itself visibly. This is a form of invocation as there is a direct connection with the spirit and the medium.
AND I WOULD BE VERY INTERESTED TO KNOW MORE ABOUT THE "BLACK DJINN" THAT YOU HAVE FOUND. Did you "find" them just as the christians claim to have "found" Jesus?
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Stryroth
Post # 2
Jun 27, 2008
I find this highly offensive. How can you ask to get hold of my kind, an entity that has a life and a journey, a mission, simply to fulfill your human wishes? We are not creatures, if you think we will just be called and enslaved then you are wrong. If so we will definitely not help you in any way. I am sorry, but it doesn’t work that way. You will have to conjure one, then you will have to please him/her, then and only then, if they please and are not angry that you interrupted their lives, they may help you. [/quote]
....and you? You claim to actually BE A DJINN? Or are you claiming to be a djinn incarnate? In all my experience of working with the djinn, I never thought that all I needed to do was just pop onto this website and chat away with one.
yeah, i tried binding a djinn to days ago, didnt work out to well for me.
i wasnt hurt, the darn thing just wanted out of my house and away from me;(i have 4 enclosed barriers barring any hostile magickal being from entering or exiting my premises) I must remember next time i try something like that to researching binding instead of just forcing something into an object and keeping it there with an energy shield.
well, ya live and ya learn and then ya get luvs.
ps. the object in question has no energy left in it. drained completely.
Personally, I don't get why people want to summon djinn. I prefer the hard work normally. And it would probably mean yet another trip to the hospital(gas costs too much for regular trips now. lol.). I'm really getting sick of that place. But you don't learn unless you act. So go for it whitetx, I don't think they'd really harm you. But there's always that possibility so if you're afraid to get hurt.........you probably shouldn't try it. But I'm curious now. I'll have to research and actually try that now. -Catty
jinn isn't an english word so it doesn't matter wether its spelt jinn or djinn.
I can tell you all you need to know (pretty much) about jinns, or jinnis or jinnati in islamic concept (seeing as I use to be muslim)
First off, jinn and Jinni (Genie), are arabic words and you may nottice that alladin with his genie (jinni) are of arabic origin.
In Islamic belief, the sahrs (those who practise sihr or magick), use the jinn to perform their magicks.
When Adam was made along with the creation, there were two species who had "choice" they were humans and jinn. Man was made from a type of clay and jinns from smokeless fire. Iblees (a jinn) was so close to God and very blessed, but then God made adam and told all the angels (and Iblees) to prostrate to Adam. But Iblees was aragont and said "why should I prostrate when I am made from fire and he is from weak clay!" So God punished Iblees and called him shaytaan (where the christians got the word satan from) and he was about to be sent to hell, but then iblees made dua (like a prayer) that he should live until the last day of judgement to bring down mankind to the hell with him.
So basically, there are two living species that make choice and have potential for heaven and hell (in islam).
Jinnati (plural in arabic for jinn) and Humans.
The Jinnati are a different species, and most jinns do not try and affect the humans world. Sometimes Jinns appear to some people and sometimes only to those people (believed to be the cause of some schitzophrenia).
The bad jinn can do many things, such as appear in peoples visions and make them believe the wrong and false religions they follow. It certainly explains how people can see visions of the virgin mary yet others claim they've had past lives.
Some sahrs use the jinn to do magick. Other sahrs (who do not believe it is necessarrily the jinn that help with the magick) such as ourselves believe it is through our mind that things happen that appear magickal, and thus the jinn confirm our believes that we can do magick via our minds.
I strongly strongly strongly advise you not to go contacting jinns of the islamic concept, because if islam were true, then all of us and our magickal practises are going to jahunum (hellfire). And if islam were true (and the jinns would be proof), then selling your soul for some wish is'nt very advisable.
The reason I'm not muslim no more is because I'm addicted to magick and islam throws you out if you practise magick.
In true islamic shariah law, the punishment for practising magick is execution.
If you have any questions reguarding islam or the islamic concept of the jinns, pm me and I'll try to answer you as best I can. But don't tell any muslims about me PLEASE. The last thing I want is to be hunted down for becoming apostate (you get executed for that too).
Wow Nihilo that kinda sux. No offense intended. I just meant that getting killed because of magic....well......it sux. I still strongly believe that no matter what religion you are if your good(even if you practice magic) you won't go to hell. But who know? I still want to try w/ the djinn but I guess they'd get pissed if I bothered them. So idk what I'll be doing. -Catty
This post is clearly in the wrong place, you should have started another thread in spell suggestions, or misc topics.
But to answer your question, magick can theoretically be used to enhance probability of events, draw yourself nearer to attaining wealth.
The chances of winning the lottery are extremely slim, even doubling the chance of winning would still make it hard to win, magick cannot help you get rich.
If magick could help you get rich, then there would not be a poor magick practitioner out there!
Anyone who states they can cast a spell to win the lottery are liars, if they could, they would have done it themselves and keep on doing it......
