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there is always a calm wind before the storm that is so true.
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Re: war and peace.....
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the underground the minchokgoqu it means fighting slave i used to be one im proud of it as well we were like slaves at one point yes im pretty sure ya'll dont know about this but any way i dont care 8 yrs ago i foughtfor my independence and for all of them..... im warrior willing to die for even the ones i hate most too because im not like the rest. you can hate me shunn me try to destroy me but just to piss you off i will defend you im just a defender after all now the rest stop being scared little kitten and post something now ya'll have a reason to argue about this... pathetic when some one post for people to go at ya'll finally dont.
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I prefer war because it shows are human nature as best than any other situation.. when tragedy strikes is when we see humans in a very spiritual state.. than when there is peace.. peace is always over stimated.. and people tend not to pay attention when they got it.. but when there is war.. we notice times of peace.. are eyes are more out there looking.. we are more awake. War just takes us to what humans are really capable and what most humans want overall and that is power.. and war makes us vulnerable and accept death quick than when there is peace. It is all about looking for different points of view.. people who has never being in the center of a war, cannot know what peace really feels like. People who has always live in peace, cannot know what a war feels like.. a person who has being in both knows what it wants in life for the most part.. a person who has live more in war than peace.. will always find a place where peace is found.. and well there is many things.. but overall humans prefer war than peace, if that was not true.. then wars would not be so popular and exciting as they are.
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variados i like that, not bad, not bad at all..
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^_^ Well.. I am with war.. but I am not the fighter kind. *_* how contradicting.
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I guess that we are all natural warriors and feel the need to fight occasionally. If there was always peace then it maybe would get boring. If there was always war then that would also be bad.

A good fight maybe with words or a few punches is a really good release instead of just hiding what you really feel all the time. (Mental disorders any one?). Some times you just have to hit some one or some thing right?

However, in an ideal world, after a 'good fight' there would be a hand shake and a "sorry mate but what you did/said really ticked me off but we are cool now." would make things all better.

But hey, one can only dream.
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Re: war and peace.....
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wicked that was good very good
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now let me say this war i like and war i shall have on this forum molgore your pathetic no matter what you say just keep provin my point your a bigger loser than me ;) keep trying you might get somethin out of it maybe loser.
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i got this in an email thought it would be relevant called:
When WW3 Started

When WWIII Started - 1979...

This is very informative. You have to read the catalog of events in this brief piece.

Then, ask yourself, how anyone can take the position that all we have to do is bring our troops home from Iraq, sit back, reset the snooze alarm, go back to sleep, and no one will ever bother us again.

In case you missed it, World War III began in November 1979 . . . That alarm has been ringing for years.

US Navy Captain Ouimette is the Executive Officer at Naval Air Station, Pensacola, Florida. Here is a copy of the speech he gave last month. It is an accurate account of why we are in so much trouble today, and why this action is so necessary.

AMERICA NEEDS TO WAKE UP!

That's what we think we heard on the 11th of September 2001 (When more than 3,000 Americans were killed) and maybe it was, but I think it should have been 'Get Out of Bed!'. In fact, I think the alarm clock has been buzzing since 1979 and we have continued to hit the snooze button and roll over for a few more minutes of peaceful sleep since then.

It was a cool fall day in November 1979 in a country going through a religious and political upheaval when a group of Iranian students attacked and seized the American Embassy in Tehran.

This seizure was an outright attack on American soil; it was an attack that held the world's most powerful country hostage and paralyzed a Presidency. The attack on this sovereign U. S. Embassy set the stage for events to follow for the next 25 years. America was still reeling from the aftermath of the Vietnam experience and had a serious threat from the Soviet Union when then, President Carter, had to do something. He chose to conduct a clandestine raid in the desert. The ill-fated mission ended in ruin, but stood as a symbol of America's inability to deal with terrorism.

America's military had been decimated and do wn sized/right sized since the end of the Vietnam War.

A p oorly trained, poorly equipped and poorly organized military was called on to execute a complex mission that was doomed from the start.

Shortly after the Tehran experience, Americans began to be kidnapped and killed throughout the Middle East.

America could do little to protect her citizens living and working abroad. The attacks against US soil continued.

In April of 1983 a large vehicle packed with high explosives was driven into the US Embassy compound in Beirut.

When it explodes, it kills 63 people. The alarm went off again and America hit the Snooze Button once more.

Then just six short months later in 1983 a large truck heavily laden down with over 2500 pounds of TN T smashed through the main gate of the US Marine Corps headquarters in Beirut and 241 US servicemen are killed. America mourns her dead and hit the Snooze Button once more.

Two months later in December 1983, another truck loaded with explosives is driven into the USEmbassy in Kuwait , and America continues her slumber.

The following year, in September 1984, another van was driven into the gate of the USEmbassy in Beirut, and America slept.

So on the terrorism spreads to Europe. In April 1985 a bomb explodes in a restaurant frequented by US soldiers in Madrid.

Then in August 1985 a Volkswagen loaded with explosives is driven into the main gate of the US Air Force Base at Rhein-Main, 22 are killed and the snooze alarm is buzzing louder and louder as US interests are continually attacked.

Fifty-nine days later in 1985 a cruise ship, the Achille Lauro, is hijacked and we watched as an American in a wheelchair is singled out of the passenger list and executed.

The terrorists then shift their tactics to bombing civilian airliners when they bomb TWA Flight 840 in April of 1986 that killed 4, and the most tragic bombing, Pan Am Flight 103 over Locker bie, Scotland in1988, killing 259.

Clinton treated these terrorist acts as crimes; in fact we are still trying to bring these people to trial.

These are acts of war.

The wake up alarm is getting louder and louder.

The terrorists decide to bring the fight to America. In January 1993, two CIA agents are shot and killed as they enter CIA headquarters in Langley, Virginia .

The following month, February, 1993, a group of terrorists are arrested after a rented van packed with explosives is driven into th e underground parking garage of the World Trade Center in New York City. Six people are killed, and over 1000 are injured. Still this is a crime and not an act of war?

The Snooze alarm is depressed again.

Then in November 1995 a car bomb explodes at a US military complex in Riyadh, Saudi Arabia killing seven service men and women.

A few months later in June of 1996, another truck bomb explodes only 35 yards from the US military compound in Dhahran , Saudi Arabia. It destroys the Khobar Towers, a US Air Force barracks, killing 19 , and injuring over 500. The terrorists are getting braver and smarter as they see that America does not respond decisively.

They move to coordinate their attacks in a simultaneous attack on two US embassies in Kenya and it's country-region: Tanzania.

These attacks were planned with precision. They kill 224. America responds with cruise missile attacks and goes back to sleep.

The USS Cole was docked in the port of Aden, Yemen for r efueling on 12 October 2000, when a small craft pulled along side the ship and exploded, killing 17 US Navy Sailors. Attacking a US War Ship is an act of war, but we sent the FBI to investigate the crime and went back to sleep.

And of course you know the events of 11 September 2001.

Most Americans think this was the first attack against US soil or in America.

How wrong they are. America has been under a constant attack since 1979, and we chose to hit the snooze alarm, roll over and go back to sleep.

In the news lately we have seen lots of finger pointing from every high
officials in government over what they knew and what they didn't know. But if you've read the papers and paid a little attention I think you can see
exactly what they knew. You don't have to be in the FBI or CIA or on the National Security Council to see the pattern that has been developing since 1979.

I think we have been in a war for the past 25 years and it will continue until, we as a people, decide enough is enough. America needs to 'Get out of Bed' an d act decisively now.

America has been changed forever. We have to be ready to pay the price, and make the sacrifice, to ensure our way of life continues. We cannot afford to keep hitting the snooze button, again and again, and roll over and go back to sleep.

After the attack on Pearl Harbor, Admiral Yamamoto said '... it seems all we have done is awakened a sleeping giant.' This is the message we need to disseminate to terrorists around the world.

This is not a political thing to be hashed over in an election year; this is an AMERICAN thing.

This is about our Freedom, and the Freedom of our children, in years to come.
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wow
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