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Lucifer is the Bringer of Light, it is not the same as Satan, it is indeed closer to Lucifuge, the Fading Light

He is the same archtype (in psychological terms of course, not spiritual ones) as Prometheus.

You can find his sigil in many grimoires, and, after preparing the magical space and doing an invocation, you can try meditating with the sigil in order to try to contact the Luciferian energy.

It really depends on which side of Lucifer you want to make contact, as the Bringer of Light, as the Fallen Angel, etc...it all really depends
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First off,.don't listen to what anyone coming from a christian perspective has to say.

Second, if you plan to do a full on evocation of lucifer, I would suggest you first practice on lesser demons. Modern Demonolatry by S. Connoly is a very informative book to start from and you can find a free pdf. online.
Another useful one toy can find for free online is The Luciferian Goetia by Michael Ford.
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Lucifer is a Christian concept. Anton LaVey even discussed it in the Satanic Bible that making pacts with Lucifer and Satan was a Christian idea spread around to make the Christian laypeople fearful.
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That is yet another example of Anton LaVey knowing very little about the subject he is talking about. For one, Lucifer is a Jewish concept, not a Christian one. The King James Bible tranlated the word, perhaps erroneously, from the Hebrew in to latinised form. If it came from the new testament, it would have been in Greek.

One more thing, many of the medieval grimoires featured systems of making pacts with so-called demons, such as Lucifuge rofocale-- these systems were most likely created by Christian magicians, however, it was not to scare people, it was a system of magic.

For an overview of this and for a brief look at the history of pact making- which is surprising, gruesome, weird, and oddly enough involves many ordained priests. I recommend "Pacts with the Devil" by Christopher Hyatt and Jason Black.

I am not picking on LaVey solely for this, his shoddy translations of the Enochian keys also rub me up the wrong way!
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First you must understand who is really Lucifer.

Second,you can grow spiritually without Him.Is true demons will help you at your beginning but you can do it by yourself,you can grow in power yourself.

Lucifer will help you but you can't depend only on Him,do it yourself.The goal is to become more powerful.

Is not so hard to contact Lucifer,an evocation ritual can work.



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It doesn't take an evocation ritual to do something that can be accomplished with sigil magick and meditation. Regardless of that, the op wouldn't be asking this sort of question if they understood the basics in Luciferian Magick. I agree, that it doesn't take a spirit to help someone develop knowledge or intellect but I feel that the overall goal to become more "powerful" is incorrect. True Luciferians seek wisdom in chaos and sees things like "power" and "dominion" over the mundane as illusive tricks perpetuated by the ego self/cosmic order. This is why we make our spiritual practices and the pursuit of knowledge a priority above all mundane desires.

Instead of growing in power as you put it we seek dissolution of the ego because we identify the ego self as a creation of the demiurge/cosmic order. By igniting the black flame within we can truly liberate ourselves of this cosmic order and finally unite our spirits with the acosmic realm of chaos.

Anyways, that's just my thoughts and I know this path is very diverse. Do what thou wilt.


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I have many pdf documents that i would be glad to share with you that may help to enlighten you on yer path. Feel free to pm me. Lucifer is not what the obvious xians on the first page of this thread say he is.
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From what I've read, Lucifer was basically kicked out of heaven because he loved god to much to bow down to humans. Seeing them as sinful. So the chances of him actually talking to and working with you are very slim. But the best of luck to you.
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Honestly, its a christian concept, the idea he was thrown out of heaven. People who work with him do not consider him evil, necessarily. Okay, some do, but... Yes, do you get what I am attempting to explain?
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I don't know if you're talking to me but if you are. I was working with my knowledge of Christian lore. And various other religions that basically concour that Lucifer was thrown out. I don't see anything as inherently bad. Or good.
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