Religion basically is what people believe to be true. Diversity is what makes us as humans interesting and many people fail to notice that. Magnus if everyone was exactly alike in every way it would make being human very boring.
Never said anything about different being bad, don't put words in my mouth. I merely pointed out that people shouldn't simply make things up and expect what they have made up to be accepted or agreed with, simply because people are free to call a thing by whatever name they wish. That is relativism, but it's not what I', talking about, I'm talking about realism. I
If you say or do something that doesn't make sense, and do it in a public place, I'd expect someone to point it out, maybe that's just me. You are free to say or do whatever you want, just as I am free to point out it's bull**** and makes no sense if that happens to be the case. Changing around meanings of words and calling yourself something that is contrary to the words meaning is a good way to always be right of course, as who can disagree with you when everything is relative, but that's not how reality works. There is no such thing as a Muslim/Jew, just as there is no such thing as a Christian/Pagan, the two are anathema to one another, and calling yourself such actually shows a clear lack of understanding, and makes a person look foolish, unless that person is in the company of others who think in the same way of course. What is that same way? Relative thinking, that is what I speak of. If you have heard of and studied moral relativity, than you will know the dangers that such relative thinking can pose. If you have not, than you've no idea of what I speak, and my arguments will mean nothing to you. If that is the case, well than I suggest more study.
Anyhow, I wish you well. To the person who thinks they are a Pagan/Christian, please do continue to make up stuff that makes no sense.
Though this site is heavily insulated from the real world, there will always be someone who is actually grounded in reality, or is not a yes man, or relativist, that will have the courage to disagree with your nonsense, so get used to it, or of course never leave this site. Bye bye.
your the type of person that will never lesson to what people are saying, and will never try to understand what is really go on in the real world, when you are living in your own litle world. you wont listen to what people are saying becuase you think that you are always right. i help you know that what you say doesnt effect my thinking at all. and this site is dedicated to people that incorporate magick, and paganism in their spiritual path, not for aruging and tell people their religion is wrong, so i would just get off this site if you are telling people how or how not to practice.
I can not believe this! You call yourself a Wiccan, because that is totally un-Wiccan like to be bashing on others religions! Most people who turn to Wicca do so knowing the sh!t they have to take from others, and now you are doing that! Imagine, finding a Christian openminded enough to try and incorporate another spiritual path into their own, instead of coming here and saying something like you will burn in hell.
"Ever mind the Rule of Three. Three times what thou gives returns to thee. This lesson well, thou must learn, thy only gets what thou dost earn."
I'm not arguing, I am not giving you the satisfaction!
I can not believe this! You call yourself a Wiccan,
!!!!I never claimed to be a wiccan, and was not speaking of religion. I was speaking of people making things up. Trying to turn this into me being intolerant of someones religion is just you looking for a reason to attack and bash myself. You do need a reason after all to justify your righteous indignation.
because that is totally un-Wicca
!!!!Again, I am not wiccan, never claimed to be, so I suppose I am unwiccan in that sense.
like to be bashing on others religions!
!!!!If you read what I wrote, I said that people are free to believe what they like, and more power to them. You can do whatever you want, it's a free country. Just like I can "do" and say "whatever" I want. Also, I was not bashing anyone, though if I did that would be allowed also, seeing as I am being bashed, or bashed at at least, quite a bit. Anyhow, I said that a Pagan/Christian is nonsense, that there is no such thing, and that it is made up. All these statements are true, and none are bashing really. You seem to me to be the type who has experienced a lot of bashing for your believes, so you are hyper sensitive to it happening, and therefore you even get upset when it isn't happening. This tends to happen to hyper sensitive people who have been victimized a lot. Please learn the difference between bashing, and someone simply debating the merits of an argument, and the logic behind some labeling choices people make. Such choices can end up showing an extreme lack of knowledge and understanding about the underlying tenets and principles of the very things they are claiming to represent. When you debate and argue such points it's not called bashing, it's opening peoples eyes to the truth, some people anyhow. Some don't wish to be exposed to the truth, in which case it might be considered bashing to those people. ;)
Most people who turn to Wicca do so knowing the sh!t they have to take from others,
!!!!Then why turn to it?
and now you are doing that!
!!!!If by s*** you mean speaking the truth, using logic, reasoning, and education to show the flaws in a statement, then I am indeed guilty. I see a lot of nit picking, putting of words into my mouth, righteous indignation about unrelated subjects, and a whole lot of soap box talk. Reminds me of a PETA demonstration.
Imagine, finding a Christian openminded enough to try and incorporate another spiritual path into their own
!!!!Only problem is Christianity is mutually exclusive, by it's very nature it excludes faiths such as paganism. Like trying to use leaded gas in an unleaded car, or a square peg in a round hole, it just doesn't fit. I keep waiting for someone to see the reason in my words and agree with me, sadly all I am actually seeing is a lot of hysteria and indignation from the largest zealots and yes men here, I suppose the people in the know are remaining silent. Good choice, ever tried to inflict reason on the unreasonable, or logic on the illogical, or reality on a relativist? Those are the things I was really speaking about, but have not been responded to. Only imaginary slights have been responded to, because no real slights such as the ones this person is talking about have been given.
, instead of coming here and saying something like you will burn in hell.
!!!!WTF? Talk about totally unrelated. As I thought, this person is not talking to me, but is playing through personal issues, and I am merely a convenient target for this person to do so.
"Ever mind the Rule of Three. Three times what thou gives returns to thee. This lesson well, thou must learn, thy only gets what thou dost earn."
I'm not arguing, I am not giving you the satisfaction!
!!!!No you certainly are not arguing, an argument would make some sense I think. This is just a rant, a self righteous one at that, that isn't even directed at me, but seemingly at all the people in your life that have victimized you. Take care of yourself, and I mean that, really.
I did not mean to offend you, and I have not received discrimination for my religion, and I may be hyper sensitive, and I agree with certain points of your argument, however, it is still uncalled for to tell people what they choose to believe is bull sh!t. It is their personal choice, and calling a religion wrong is completely relative to your religion. People turn to Wicca with knowledge of the discrimination because they do it for the religion, for the meaning behind it, not to go around telling people "I'm a witch, and I gonna hex you!" And it to call a religion untruthful is also relative to your religion.
At this point I honestly believe the only reason this thread is continuing is so that people can cry about being attacked and to over use ! and * in every reply.
