summon an archangel ?

luzifer- i agree w/u becuz angels cannot b related to any religion because they were here first and cannot be limited to any particualr religion. there 4 every1- did u say u "work with archangels"
lady tessa's banishing ritual actually work?

shadow333- does that prayer u left have 2b in that language-is there an english version that i can use?

i really need 2 get rid of this thing(black cloud/shadow spider)not like i can just call the ghostbusters

Spidey-Its not "Mine". I have no idea who wrote it. But you are surrounded by the 4 archangels,You first mentioned when it is done correctly.

remember you cannot summon something far beyond your ability to summon

Yay! ^_^ -happy dance- I impressed LadyTessa :3. Also, one of the side effects I found from my own experiments with that ritual is it strengthens all aspects of psionics. Particularly energy manipulation.

Think outside the box (religion).
I believe God was the first being or power or something and He created everything including angels.
He taught people how to pray to Him and how to ask Him for help.
That is all included in Christianity and Judaism. Maybe they weren't first religions but the main Being was.
So it's simple ------> praying properly = getting the proper help

Luzifer, in every discussion this type you're trying to prove Christianity wrong.
Have you ever considered the fact you might be the one who's wrong with your wiccan theories?

faust, i seek to disprove nothing.

when people speak of karma or the law of three as if it's an accepted part of magick that is believed by all, I point out that they are just religious concepts to be used in those religions.

you speaking of needing "christian stuff" to call an archangel forced me to point out the fallacy of your statement.

All religions have thier own "proper" way to pray, and since you believe that "the first being" taught people how to pray, then by that logic, the proper way, would of course be the Oldest way ever taught.

so the older religions would be more right than the newer ones.

ps. I am NOT a wiccan faust, in fact I am not really anything. I am just a man with more sound judgement, a better sense of truth, and more open morals than you.
You know what I think of you, your "quest" to destroy "evil", and your attitudes. So this should come as no surprise to you.

Luzifer

Indeed I'm not as liberal as you are and I'm kinda proud of it.

If by liberal, you mean valuing all life, searching for the truth, not accepting the worldview thrust on me by others, and looking beyond the obvious.

yes, I would agree that I am MUCH more liberal than you.

Luzifer

Spidey you can find it in English too . I simply preffer Latin cus it's something closest to "Magickal language" :)

i hear succubus's arent afraid of much- there not afraid of salt or crosses- there not going 2b threatened by any humans. so i figure i need some type of angel to come and remove it. i mean heavenly angels- cuz demons r angels themselves. i try and call on jesus--but i am of little faith i know 4 jesus 2 interact u must have alot of faith. this succubus/shadow spider just aint leaving me alone. so i need an angel 2 come and kick its ass.