Karma

i do healr, i think karma is a bitch, soo be her friend :3
karma will allways bring a balance to ones life it dosnt have to happend right away ican take iven 2-3 years, but it will happen.

karma is a power to great to control, just try to be at her favor

Lets say there is a woman who devoted her life to helping others. Homeless, deviant kids, the hungry, ect. She is shot and killed for her wallet.

How did Karma repay her good deeds?

well ther u need to remember that everything that happens cant be karmas falt, karma didnt shot the poor thing a random guy did it he controled the actions that he took and did it... now karma by reaction will creat a force of negative energy that will follow and fuck ( sorry for the word) his life, he will have really bad luck, hel get cought by the cops and arested, in jail hil be some ones bitch, some on in his family or close to him will die..ect ect yea so the lady was nice and help in her time, yes she died and never got her reward , but thats because the man with the gun got in her life path and stoped it..maby if she never would ahve gon to that place and gotn shot some good would have come her way, but some one with free will got to ehr first...cuz i can be the biges jerk ass hole in the planet or the nicest perosn but if a random guys come in my face shoots me or i kill myself well thows were actions people took and afected ur life path, making karmas plans for u usles.

the woman, if you believe in it, will have her place in heaven. Maybe it was just her time and God wanted her by his side. Theres so many things taht can happen. But the idiot who shot her will burn for all eternity and rot in hell =]

But Karma is the theory that what you do comes back to you. The idea behind it is that an invisible force determines your actions to be good or bad and will reward or punish you accordingly.

Now we talk about the guy who shot her. What if he had just lost his job and had no food for his family, and no means to get any. The gun went off by accident. Aside from the killing, was what he did good or bad?

ugh....u make my brain hurt healer lol

lol I do it to myself fairly often


The point is, with the concept of Karma, in my opinion..it doesn't work for those who do not believe in it. Guilt and thus actions caused by guilt are what drive the idea of Karma to be possible.

Some people may see the guy I mentioned as doing bad. No excuse for it what so ever, thus believe he will have bad Karma on him.

I however, can understand as a parent, where he is comming from and don't see the deed as bad. The end result, probably of his own guilt is bad...but stealing money to feed his family I do not see as a bad deed.

I think, true Karma, is up to the individual. Not a bunch of random people. What you put out will come back. If you put out guilt, you will inadvertently have actions to cause bad luck. If you are happy go lucky, happy go lucky things come back.

It's like the pedophile in prison who feels no remorse for what he did. We see him as getting his by rotting in prison. But he doesn't feel bad about it and is getting 2 square meals a day and an education. Is that really THAT bad?


I use the word Karma frequently. I will tell someone who just said something wrong to me and then got a paper cut that Karma got them. Completely as a joke. But who are we to decide what action are deserving of punishment and which actions are deserving of reward when it comes to other people?

Point being...let your own moral compass be your guide when doing magick and living life in general.

Karma (Sanskrit: kárma (help·info), kárman- "act, action, performance" [1] ; Pali: kamma) is the concept of "action" or "deed" in Indian religions understood as that which causes the entire cycle of cause and effect (i.e., the cycle called sasra) originating in ancient India and treated in Hindu, Jain, Sikh and Buddhist philosophies.and in the west in Christianity in a different sense(wikipedia)

As healer has said Karma means "deed" or "act" and more broadly names the universal principle of cause and effect, action and reaction that governs all life...."what goes around comes around"

As an answer to the woman ...depending on her religion..maybe the actions that she was dealing with(her death) were not the actions of this life at all....They may have been Karmic reactions from a former life..ie...She lived a good life in this one..but maybe in a pst life she did somthing that brought the end that she received in this life..Looking at it that way,because of the good she did in this life,she should start with good Karma in her next life,and so on.

What I believe is not the point

We are not here to tell you what to believe only to open your eyes and ears to the possibilities,that are there.
I can put it no better than healer said..Let your own moral compasses be your guide to the path you choose.

Below are some passages from Myself and different books about different beliefs on Karma.I dont expect them to all be read at once,lol
There just there in an effort to answer Questions you may have.


The philosophical explanation of karma can differ slightly between traditions, but the general concept is basically the same. Through the law of karma, the effects of all deeds actively create past, present, and future experiences, so by doing this it is making one responsible for one's own life, and the pain and joy it brings to him/her and others. The results of our actions are called Fate,destiny ,or in the eastern cultures karma-phala.In religions that Have a Heaven based reward Karma is seent to be the reward of actions in This one life. In religions that incorporate reincarnation, karma extends through one's present life and all past and future lives as well.

In Christianity,Karma may be said to be the life you receive in heaven after you Give your life,To the Christian God and Christ.
It goes into detail to tell you that this life may not be easy(Past deeds will find you out and there is attonement to be made for those deeds)
But it gives with certainty the promise that if you follow the teachings of god the rewards promisd will be yours..Heaven (Karma)


In Hinduisim

One of the first and most dramatic illustrations of karma can be found in the epic Mahabharata. In this poem, Arjuna the protagonist is preparing for battle when he realizes that the enemy consists of members of his own family and decides not to fight. His charioteer, Krishna (an avatar of god), explains to Arjuna the concept of dharma (duty) among other things and makes him see that it is his duty to fight. The whole of the Bhagavad Gita within the Mahabharata, is a dialogue between these two on aspects of life including morality and a host of other philosophical themes. The original Hindu concept of karma was later enhanced by several other movements within the religion, most notably Vedanta, and Tantra.


In Sikhism
Within Sikhism, all living beings are described as being under the influence of Maya's three qualities namely Rajas (mode of passion), Tamas (mode of ignorance), and Saatav (mode of goodness) [citation needed] . Always present together in varying mix and degrees, these three qualities of Maya bind the Soul to the body and to the earth plane. Above these three qualities is the eternal time. Due to the influence of three modes of Maya's nature, jivas (individual beings) perform activities under the control and purview of the eternal time. These activities are called Karma. The underlying principle is that karma is the law that brings back the results of actions to the person performing them.

This life is likened to a field (Khet) in which our Karma is the seed. We harvest exactly what we sow. No less, no more. This infallible law of Karma holds everyone responsible for what the person is or going to be. Based on the total sum of past Karma, some feel close to the Pure Being in this life, and others feel separated. This is the Gurbani's (Sri Guru Granth Sahib, ) law of Karma. Like other Indian as well as oriental school of thoughts, the Gurbani also accepts the doctrines of Karma and reincarnation as the facts of nature


Buddhism
karma (Pli kamma) is strictly distinguished from vipka, meaning "fruit" or "result". Karma is categorized within the group or groups of cause (Pli hetu) in the chain of cause and effect, where it comprises the elements of "volitional activities" (Pali sankhara) and "action" (Pali bhava). Any action is understood to create "seeds" in the mind that will sprout into the appropriate result (Pli vipaka) when they meet with the right conditions. Most types of karmas, with good or bad results, will keep one within the wheel of samsra; others will liberate one to nirvna.

Buddhism relates karma directly to motives behind an action. Motivation usually makes the difference between "good" and "bad", but included in the motivation is also the aspect of ignorance; so a well-intended action from an ignorant mind can easily be "bad" in the sense that it creates unpleasant results for the "actor




In Jainism
Karma in Jainism conveys a totally different meaning as commonly understood in the Hindu philosophy and western civilization. In Jainism, karma is referred to as karmic dirt, as it consists of very subtle and microscopic particles i.e. pudgala that pervade the entire universe.Karmas are attracted to the karmic field of a soul on account of vibrations created by activities of mind, speech, and body as well as on account of various mental dispositions. Hence the karmas are the subtle matter surrounding the consciousness of a soul. When these two components, i.e. consciousness and karma, interact, we experience the life we know at present.

Herman Kuhn quoting from Tattvarthasutra describes karmas as – a mechanism that makes us thoroughly experience the themes of our life until we gained optimal knowledge from them and until our emotional attachment to these themes falls off.

Sources(
Hindisim-The book Karma in Hinduism
Buddhism-Karma in Buddhism
Sihkism-The book of Sikhism
Jainism-Karma in Jainism and Padmanabh Jaini

head hurts -_- to much info ,brain going to implode!!
short attention span kicking in...cant help it....ahh uuhfesjkfirb....uuh!! a bird!! *points at a window**

ahah ok, thanx for that info man very helpfull on how to look at karma in mani ways and how other religions/cultures look at it.

Sorry guys I know that one got a little long,Ill try to keep them shorter