Just A Thought of Mine...

Anyone is allowed to respond to your forum post, Dawn, because it is public. Thus any viewpoint on it is welcome.

If you meant it as illusion-magick, you should have said so. "There may be some physical changes, such as pointy ears.." implies that you meant a physical change, as you stated.

1. This is a public forum. Anyone can comment even if they do not agree to what you are saying.

2. Turning into an Elf would require you to change your DNA, which is not possible yet and probably won't be possible for a long time.

And also, you will be hearing this a lot. The obvious will be stated. If you don't like it, don't say we are being rude because we are telling the truth as you claim we are being.

well, I think elves were a irish and native american tribe that bent their ears at birth and eventually their ears adapted to become like elf ears through the generations of people that bent their ears, and they were a magickal people but they weren't like elves like off of books and movies. They were a pure people that performed good magick like white magick, of course that's what I heard, some people can look like elves but not be actual elves, like some people have the french curly fingers where their fingers are bent, and some people can have elf look alike ears, and some people get ears without some of the inner parts of it making it look flat, and no real elves aren't real, and they are not some kind of creature or species, they are just humans doing magick and they bent their ears at birth so that their ears look pointy. I do not believe they are a supernatural nor metaphysical species, I believe they are humans that are into magick or people with genetic trates that look elvish or they bent their ears at birth, again I don't think they were born magick and I don't believe they are supernatural beings or metaphysical creatures. And I am not even sure if they were actually into magick all I heard was what a person told me, they may have bent the ears just to show people that they were from a certain ancient tribe and perhaps they had enemies so if the enemy would try to invade their territory they would see their pointy ears and run away off their turf. Kind of like how indian tribes have totem poles and certain feathers they wear to show their enemy tribe who they were. Kind of like the gangs of japan they tattoo their whole body to show other people that they are in that gang clan. So I do not know if the elf tribe were into magick or not that's just what I heard from a person that claimed they were in the elf tribe.

I have said it many times on this site. I will say it again!
You may believe anything you wish; but a belief does not make it true.

To the best of my knowledge Irish people have never shaped their ears to be pointed. I also feel as if the concept is confusing fairies and elves. Fairies stem from Celtic folklore and in Ireland were simply considered people with magical powers. It's unclear as to if they were believed to be separate species but it is mentioned that they appeared identical to humans so ultimately it would appear as if they were simply magical practitioners that were not heads of the Celtic faith (as they were druids). Elves on the other hand stem from Germanic folklore of a race of supernatural beings with magical powers (like they fae though they did not possess pointy ears). As far as I'm aware pointy ears is an addition made on behalf of Hollywood simply to distinguish them from humans on screen. The two terms have become synonymous though and are typically thought of being spiritual creatures on the astral plane. As I said though to the best of my knowledge the Irish have never been in the practice of misshaping their ears at birth although I can't speak for any south american tribes although if you know of a reference to it then I would be fascinated to learn about it.

Now that I've defended my heritage a little I'll address the actual topic. Personally I don't think you could change your soul to be elven but that boils down to what you interpret the soul to be and personally I don't apply the concept of (for lack of a better term) species to the soul anyway. That being said the fairy folk are typically regarded today as being spiritual beings and thus it wouldn't really be possible to become one on the physical plane. As for shifting to an elf on the astral plane it doesn't require any great spell, all it really requires is for you to get inside the head of one, metaphorically speaking of course. If you understand or at least have an interpretation of what an elf is then you can mirror its behavior and form in order to gain a better understanding of it. It is not quite that simple as that is a way of shifting into your interpretation of one, to gain insight into their true mind you would need to work with them as well as seek them out on the astral plane and work with them a little. If you are not after a physical transformation then it ultimately boils down to changing your personality, will you be an elf? No you won't, but you would be like an elf which is ultimately as close as it is possible to get.

I never said they were a species dude, I said the irish clan or tribe called themselves elves, and I never said they were a supernatural being, read my stuff better no offense, and I heard all this stuff from a source, it was a girl that claimed she was a elf. And I don't believe they even exist I am just telling you what the source said. Read my posts better even if you have to read them twice. And I didn't read your whole message anyways. All I heard was that elves were people that practiced white magick. And most legends, myths, and stories are based off of true facts. And I have a genetic trate that makes one of my ears look pointy but I don't believe I am a elf, and many people mark their bodies some how kind of like how a tribe of indians longate the skull to make it more of a oval shape than a round shape. And I do not believe in elves whatsoever. I'm just stating things a self claimed elf told me. And I don't believe people are like santas elves or little cookie making elves or elves off of lord of the rings, I am open to the idea that they may be a tribe of people that once existed though. Again read this message three times if you have too, but I don't really want replies anyways.

Listen, Brad. Saying you do not want replies does not work here. This is a public forum and anyone here is allowed to reply to you.

I wish the mods would lock this thread already because it is obvious to me some debate has/is going to start.

I would advise you take your own advice and read other peoples posts better as well. I think the way I wrote my reply may have caused confusion. I was not suggesting that you believed elves to be a magical race of beings in any way what I attempted to do was to state that I had not heard of an elf tribe in my research of Irish history which strikes me as being particularly unusual as the term elf is Germanic in origin and was merely asking if you knew more about it.

I then attempted to explain the origins and differences in the folklore of elves and fairies and where the addition of the pointy ears originated as far as I have been able to pin down in my own research. (Although frankly I'm not satisfied that Hollywood added the pointy ears, the film industry takes a lot of inspiration and merges them to create a creature but rarely has an original idea).

I am aware of many tribes in both Africa and South America that do mark or disfigure their body in some way, heck even tattoos are a mark on the body. However all I am saying is that to my knowledge the Irish have not had a history of shaping there ears. When I say I would be fascinated to learn of such an example though I really do mean it. I'm quite avid on piecing together Celtic history and if there is such an example I would like to know more. Although if this is something merely told to you then the odds are you don't have a reference sadly.


Based purely on my own research I would suggest that either the term elf tribe is a term adopted in the modern era by a native american tribe tat has seen heavy Irish immigration or your informant's research is flawed as the word is neither Native American or Irish in origins. I'd also point out that a tribe can not be both Native American or Irish as the Irish colonized areas of America well into a civilized era of there own development (although the tribe may have adopted the immigrants folk tales into their own).

You're obviously under no obligation to do so but if you're still in contact with this girl would you mind asking if the tribe has any other names? A google search didn't reveal the answers unfortunately and the concept could fill in quite a large part of my currently missing research.