6 years of failure w/ AP

A bit frustrated is an understatement! I'm about ready to tear my hair out! After reading about Astral Projection almost immediately after snapping myself out of the vibrational state, I learned the vibrational state is part of the whole experience. So I immediately tried to AP again.. 6 years later, still completely unable to even reach the vibrational state again. I can't say it's due to fear, because I practice black magick, and fear just isn't part of my personality. I don't fear demons in any way, I don't fear anything, I'm very excited about exploring out of body.

I suspect my chakras are out of balance, however, almost every article or post I find in relation to chakra balancing states that you should be able to discern which chakras need work by visualizing them and finding darkened spots and what have you. I seem to be incapable of doing this. I have no idea how to tell which chakras need work.

I have come across some very interesting balancing methods, and the best one I have found involves starting from the Crown chakra and working down, then coming up from there. The purpose being that starting from the crown, which is the very infusion of divine energy, working down brings that divine energy in to all the chakras, rather than starting from the ground up!

I am going to attempt this balancing - this was also recommended by my familiar spirit.

All I can say is; don't worry about it. Everybody approaches this at their own pace. 6 years is nothing to feel bad about. Be thankful you've experienced anything!

I must ask, alongside obviously meditating, have you tried something like guided hypnosis? Not so much to get you to Astral Project, but just to calm you down and let out some stress. Can you also list any literature you've read/are reading on the matter? It'll help to give a better idea for where you're getting your guidance from. Ta.

I'd just Google "Astral Projection" and "Chakra balancing" -

The chakra balancing method I learned recently is EA Koetting's method

Failure will be a failure if and only if you surender..


Failure is just the stepping stone to success..



Frustration and fear are negative energies.. the more negative energy you have in your system, the stronger your ties will be on the material world, the harder for you to astral project. if you want to achieve what you want, purify yourself from negativities.. cleanse your chakra points, before aiming for a more advanced technique.-always with the basic.. remember, you won't be able to go upstairs if you don't take the first step..

And you said that you are about 10yrs practicing magick, you should know how to troubleshoot firsthand.. 10yrs of experience is actually a long journey now, you should know how to apply what you've known for these past 10yrs or so..

--anyways, a brighter chakra will help you more to achieve what you want..

Hello, I am a newbie so I am sorry fir not being a help. I have a question however. I have the same struggles. My mind wanders and I find it hard to visualise and meditate. I haven't done any practical as yet, except a self initiation ritual. But I won't do anything else until I know enough.
I feel my chakras are either unbalanced and blocked. I reckon this is the reason for my "blindness" in meditation and visualisation.
Have you got any tips on how to cleanse and align the chakras? I would really appreciate any help.
Thank you

What meditation techniques do you use somtimes its just about finding what fits you

Well, if I might recommend some literature then, which you might find either in physical books or ebooks?

"Astral Dynamics" - Robert Bruce

"The Projection of the Astral Body" - Sylvan Muldoon

"Astral Travel" - Gavin and Yvonne Frost

These are three books that I've found particularly useful in my studies of AP. The Sylvan Muldoon book is a particular fancy; he has a couple of other works on Astral Projection, which are more along the lines of testimonies and case studies, which are also rather hard to come by in some cases, but stick with the one I've mentioned and you'll definitely benefit the most.

Of course, if you can get your hands on the three books by Robert Monroe, that may help you greatly as well, as he's generally considered to be the godfather of modern AP interest.

Honestly, books might seem boring to some people, but they are absolutely invaluable if you want to progress further.

Might I also suggest, to both you and Stella, that perhaps you focus *less* on Chakras? There are people I know who've never focused on Chakras, or even really believe in them, and they still claim that they can AP, which seems to tell me that the work on Chakras can be entirely unnecessary. Put more focus on your level of concentration, your techniques, playing around with different meditations and visualizations, and overall, your relaxation more than anything else. Oh, and patience. You must have patience!

I absolutely love books and reading - books are not at all boring to me!

When I teach people in my area project this is one of the things I do: I have them meditate and inside there minds eye they build a cabin in this cabin contact with loved ones can be, ritual may unfold! Why do I do this for self projecting because its helping one move out of the body in comfort. And sometimes only one must fake it to make it. Do this tech and you will project in a short time

Hi, I have at last come to the bottom of my problem. I simply cannot visualise. I close my eyes and see black. A void. Nothing. I can imagine feeling, pictures from memory and sense things. But I see nothing. So meditation hasn't helped much lately. I practise and had a sort of break through last night. I am very much looking forward to being able to one day. I hope my visions will be clear, vibrant a vivid one day!

Blessings