As mentioned above some people are utterly ignorant and do not know any better, but as for the ones which insist after we continuously have told them that; "No you cannot turn into a mythological creature" and they keep saying they can they're what is known as trolls and role-players.
Most are genuially unaware that magic does have it's limitations and is not like hollywood has potrayed it to be.
Re: Why do people post fluff By: Aeons_Wing / Novice
Post # 5 Mar 05, 2015
They're playing, they think we're playing, and they want us all to play along.
Or since magic isn't proven to be real or true, maybe they think people who believe that simply don't deserve honesty if we won't (to them) even take the truth or care about the truth, which is what honesty generally relies on.
Or, it can be used to manipulate people. If you can make it out that you're so special and powerful, and the other person takes it in good faith, then you can have somebody to fluff up your narcissistic ego (I mean "you" as in, in general. Not you, Vamp_lord specifically).
Because some honest people can still come to fluffy conclusions (see pop culture paganism) I also think that discussion rather than censorship is the best solution. Someone came on speaking perfect English and claiming to be a Japanese grim reaper as punishment for suicide? Hey, if they're dead, then how are they typing on what computer and who pays for their internet connection?
A long while back there was someone who made multiple accounts claiming to be the daughter of Satan and living in Hell, and I thought if I just ignored it then she would get bored and go somewhere else (if everybody else had the sense to ignore it.) Then it turned out that she'd began verbally abusing another member who then almost committed suicide only because verbal abuse was very "in character". She turned out to be practicing her fiction writing skills, which I don't think is fair because if you really want to improve fiction writing skills, then you should go to people who know that it is fiction, so they can target character development or grammar or something! So I really think she just did that for an ego boost, at the expense of other members who came here to take spiritual experiences in good faith.
And that really hurt because I'm a bard. Storytelling is my religion, it is my way of doing magic, it might not be capital-t true like a science but I do my best all the time to be honest ...so to see the imagination used for lies and abuse just really grates on my nerves.
Re: Why do people post fluff By: Lark Moderator / Adept
Post # 6 Mar 05, 2015
As long as the posts don't break the rules we have no reason to delete them. Rather they become good opportunities to educate, not only the poster, but others who might read the thread.
On the other hand, if the threads stray into role-playing then they are in violation of site rules and they will then be removed.
Re: Why do people post fluff By: Nekoshema / Novice
Post # 7 Mar 06, 2015
it can get annoying, sometimes insulting, but as its been said it could be a learning opportunity. you can't win them all, try your best to help, and ignore whatever negativity may come as a result.
is it really fair to just dismiss other people beliefs as "fluff", ok the rally outrages stuff like blowing up the moon with magic is fluff but when people say something like how do I speak with fairies you should tell them to look into faery wicca calling someone's beliefs fluff can be seen as insensitive and rude
People don't know better. Unless you are from a Pagan household, or a close friend or family member is Pagan, you are exposed to fairytale logic. Not all "fluffy bunnies" mean harm, they discover real witches walk among us, and now they can make their dreams come true. Once they discover this is far from reality, some accept it, but most go through some variation of the five stages of grief. Think about when you discovered a childhood fantasy was simply that; fantasy. When I discovered my parents slipping a dollar under my pillow I cried for an hour. Embarrassing but true. What is also true is I got over it, and I moved on. It is harder however when you held this belief for a long time, some people are kind and calmly explain why you cannot be a mermaid, others slam the hammer of reality down and call the person "fluffy" for ever even harbouring the notion. When met with anger, it's understandable the person would react the same. From the ashes a phoenix can rise, that is why the forums stay.
Not really, Older. When people go on and on with delusions of becoming fae or some mythological creature it is insulting to those which are serious about magic. Some things can be insulting to their culture hence why many people do get hostile towards the idiocy that another is radiating so vibrantly. Though, before the hostilities there is usually always an attempt or two in trying to educate the unwilling. We get labeled closed minded because we tell another that they cannot go shooting lightning bolts from their hands or that they cannot fly like a bird. It gets tiring after a time. That is why I do not see it offensive to tell the children to knock of their games as playtime is for elsewhere not this site.
Speaking with 'fae' which are for the most part are nature spirits; depends on what culture you might look at. Is quite as simple as going into a forest, finding a place to sit down, relax yourself and mind, and meditate to the point of a trance state and evoke the spirits which you so desire to speak with. I suggest taking fruit that is sweet for an offering.
However, ultimately we try to educate, we lead the horse to the water we cannot force it to drink, but when the flies start to swarm with their blazing annoyance we tend to bring out the fly-swatter and take care of the intrusion. We are not vile to those which radiate overwhelming stupidity until they begin to dish out their insults and telling us we have no idea what we are talking about.
Magic will never be able to transcend the human limitations in which we do have whether they who wish like it or not.We have reality that we are dealt therefore they just need to accept it; until solid, legitimate, hardcore evidence is produced in Proving that magic can bypass our limitations.
Now, does this bring some enlightenment unto you as to why we, serious practitioners, are so insistent on eradicating the ignorance known as fluff with intelligence?
I think you misunderstood me, I am ok with the denial of transforming into mythical beasts but in my experience some people can upset when there beliefs are said to be fluff. That is all I was trying to imply.