Oh, but I do believe he is God and I am sure I am not alone in that, although I will not speak for all Christian witches. I continue to believe in the Trinity: the Father, the Son, and the Holy Spirit. I also believe in meditation, use of crystals, candles, herbs, oils, spells, and Goddesses.
Re: Christian Witches By: Brysing Moderator / Adept
Post # 33 Apr 26, 2011
Of course,there are millions who believe that Jesus was God. And believe in the Trinity. But there have been many "trinities" over the centuries, from Isis,Osiris, and Horus to the goddess Brigid and her sisters. And many who believe that Jesus was God can, and do, practice magic. But that is not witchcraft. I know that witchcraft has "adopted" many names in modern times; but "real" witches would understand, and acknowledge the wisdom of Jesus and his teaching. They just wouldn't believe in him as a God. Neither would many other religions in the world.
To me it sounds as if you are getting confused on definitions. No, I do not believe it is possible to be a Christian Wiccan. Two different beliefs. HOWEVER, it is possible to be a Christian witch. A witch is merely someone who performs Magick, not a belief. Not all Wiccans are witches. Wicca is a religion, witchcraft is a practice. You can be a hindu witch, a Christian witch, a Wiccan witch, etc etc. Nothing says you can't believe Christ is the son of God AND perform magick. Therefore yes, you can be a Chrisian witch.
Re: Christian Witches By: Brysing Moderator / Adept
Post # 36 Apr 26, 2011
A witch is just somebody who uses magic? That is a disillusion!.Many people use magic, but they are not witches. A witch is really a healer, a wise one. With a knowledge of herbs and fungi, and their uses. A knowledge of how animals live in the wild. A knowledge of how Nature works. How the Universe works. How to harness the energy of the Earth. How the magnetic Earth works, and the influence of the moon. It is not at all just somebody who uses magic.
An argument of definitions as always. In this case I agree with Brysing in that a witch is a certain type of magic user. I do not define myself as a witch (mostly because I still get a silly image of the wicked witch of the west when I think of the word 'witch'), however I do use magic.
The word has several definitions. One of which is the definition Brysing described. Another definition is "a person who practices wicca"
So how to know which witch is which? (Sorry, I had to ^_^) The answer lies in everyone's definition of the word. It isn't an easy question to answer. By some people's definition, a Christian witch is a contradiction in terms. However there are also others who claim that one can be a Christian Wiccan?!?
I think arguing about semantics is pointless. If you want the dictionary definition then Brysing is correct, however dictionary definitions are not written in stone. English is a living language, constantly in flux. 100 years ago the word "gay" meant "happy" with no homosexual overtones...but you can't even use that word in it's original meaning anymore. Modern usage of the word "gay" means "homosexual". That's the definition. It has changed.
I believe what we are seeing here is the metamorphosis of the word "witch". If enough people start using it to mean "magic user", then the definition will change with its usage. At the moment it's anyone's guess where the word is going. Possibly the traditional definition will win out and it will remain as it was. I as a rule prefer traditional definitions (but then again, I was one of the few who was unhappy about the metamorphosis of the word 'gay' as well, I used to use it traditionally till I had to stop because people were looking at me funny).
Ok, linguistics rant is over. I spent 4 years of my life studying this exact kind of thing. Sorry for being long winded.
I think brysing is confusing the word witch with Wiccan. Brysing. Before Wicca cane around. There were still witches. They are metiobed many times in the bible.
No one is confusing anything. As I mentioned above, there are many definitions of the word witch.
And as for them being mentioned in the Bible, the word witch is a modern translation for an old Greek word that was in turn translated from old Hebrew. The original translation meant "practicer of evil magic" or "necromancer".
