In fact that's what I did, I summoned Paimon and asked "him". No, I don't summon spirits like the advanced ones do..it just needed a Ouija board and a pendulum... Paimon doesn't like to be called "King Paimon" and she has no problem in being called Paimon. I call her "Paimon".
I don't think/support in my opinion there is an entity that has "everyone" in its soul, I'd call this "entity" as "Universe" but I don't personally believe Universe is an entity. I believe however, everyone and everything are connected...
I didn't blaim you or attacked you, relax. :) I am expressing my personal opinion fully (this is why I am saying "in my opinion etc all the time), and I'm sorry if I sound hostile, I'm not in mood to...
''Entity'' is not the right word. ''Consciousness'' is barely the right one, to describe Source. Yes, it is technically the Universe, and being the ensemble of everything that there is, you will find that it does not have an expressed will, or set of emotions, or thoughts, because it simultaneously occupies the homogeneous and undividable consciousness of ''everything''.
And again, to each their own. I would question the reliability of the Ouija Board, though more traditional methods were always far easier for me, so what do I know. Different strokes, for different people, living in different universes.
The entirety of this post is unverified personal gnosis, or "UPG". It is not a tradition, nor is it bound to any laws or dogma of a certain tradition. Whilst there is no proof that Ohrcras exists to me, you have countless proof no doubt.
Not everyone's information when it comes to spirits will be corroborative, after all, it al filters through the individual's mind and therefore isn't 'pure' or 'unadulterated'. I would argue that perhaps you should mention that it is your personal opinion, or personal experience that Paimon and Belial are two aspects of Ohrocras, not that they explicitly are.
Haven't I been stating that, explicitly, every single step of the way?
''Remember, as stated before, we likely live universes apart from each other. What is ''real'' to me, may not be ''real'' to you, and so on. It's all in the Assemblage Point. ''
''As with every time someone has disagreed on the nature of the entities I post about, I would advise ignoring the armchair theorizing, and ask the entities themselves. My information is by no means ''truth'', nor am I even remotely trying to impose my views upon others. I'm just sharing what has worked for me, ideas, experiences, so you don't have to work from scratch. Take it all with a grain of salt, and see what the spirits say.
If they agree with me, then great. Thanks. If they don't agree with me, then great, find what works for you. I am by no means the epitome of magic and power, some self-proclaimed, important, holier than thou magus or god trying to make everything I say look like absolute religious truth. ''
''And again, to each their own. I would question the reliability of the Ouija Board, though more traditional methods were always far easier for me, so what do I know. Different strokes, for different people, living in different universes.
Remember, whatever works!''
The monkey mind filters information. To some people, angels are emissaries of Jehovah, and to others, imprints of the universe. To some Bune is grr a scary demon, and to some a beautiful Egyptian goddess. To some, the Loa are incredibly powerful masters who demand adoration and devotion, whereas to some they are light-hearted deities.
Also do keep in mind that I identify as a LHP magician. I place subjective reality beyond objective reality, in importance.
And as stated before, I am not claiming infallibility. I am no prophet, no wizard, no saint, no god.
The point is that it's not explicitly stated before you begin talking about how things are; for example, you begin this thread with talking about a spirit you work with which is essentially the merged form of two-high ranking demons known as King Paimon and King Belial. You don't state where these entities originally were cited from or that this is personal gnosis distinctly separate from any tradition associated with their source material. This can be very misleading to someone who has never been exposed to any practices or beliefs involving either tradition or your personal gnosis.
Had that been done, all of these responses wouldn't have followed and different ones might have been given.
The fact that its UPG doesnt mean it won't work, every publically known spirit started as UPG at some point since it was originally known only by one person who then put it into public perception.
No one was debating the legitimacy here. What's been debated was not clearly stating it was UPG, which can be misleading to newcomers or those who haven't been exposed to Demon Work.
