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Re: Athame and Fingers
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Post # 6
Nicely said Salamander! =)
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Re: Athame and Fingers
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Post # 7
morion dae im sorry if i had afended you. but the question seemed like it was from a beginner.
i agree with you that our ways are difrent there for there will be difrent ways that the tools will be used.

its true that athame's are used to direct the flow of energy by most but i use it to cut doors in my protective space. i use an twig of berch to direct energy.
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Re: Athame and Fingers
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"Was" the apprentice.
Then I graduated. :D
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Re: Athame and Fingers
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well it all comes down to what and how you belive. unlucky raven i belive that when i bless my tools in my goddess name it is give its own power and that the only way that tools should be used if in the way i blessed it. there for when i use it for something else i belive that my goddess strips the tool of its power.
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Re: Athame and Fingers
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Post # 10
An Athame is a Wiccan ritual tool, used to make a circle and cut doorways in that circle.

You can not use just anything for an athame. Generally it's a double bladed black handled knife that has known no blood. Mine is a hunting knife.

Now you can use anything to make a circle and cut doorways though.
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Re: Athame and Fingers
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Post # 11
To me, any magical "rules" - that go beyond basic common sense - are instant red flags that point to made-up BS or modern magical re-creation. Historically, magic was the tool of the poor and the oppressed, certainly not people who could afford to have separate knives - one for cutting, one for herb harvesting, and one for directing energy and miscellany magical uses. All this "thou shall nots" are thanks largely in part to the modern Neo-Pagan movements and are historically innacurate.

When you think of it, it's really your own energy field doing the work anyway when you use a ritual knife. A knife is just a fancy witchy little prop, although yes, i know, magical tools hold a "charge" after time, get you in the mood, develop a "life of their own," blah, blah, etc, etc. Of course, my bias shines right through. Others' mileage most definitely varies.
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Re: Athame and Fingers
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Ummm the poor and oppressed usually used kitchen magic.

The rich would go to having tools that were seperate. They would be able to afford grimoires and books and the like. Those tools come from the ceremonial origins of Wicca.
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Re: Athame and Fingers
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Post # 13
My life contradicts your words, Moon.
I do not use an athame because my finger works just fine.
My finger is also easier to keep track of,
so I don't have to worry about losing or misplacing it. :)
In that regard,
I believe I would go so far
as to say that my finger works better for me
then any athame could.
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Re: Athame and Fingers
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I don't believe I said you can't use your finger for the circle.
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Re: Athame and Fingers
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You didn't,
nor did I say anything about only using my finger for that.

"You can not use just anything for an athame. Generally it's a double bladed black handled knife that has known no blood. Mine is a hunting knife."

That gave me the impretion that you were saying
a finger would not work as an athame.
If I was wrong then I'm sorry,
but so far my finger has not failed in anything
that an athame would be used for.
That means my finger has successfully accomplished
every task that I have used it for
in which other people would use an athame.

Although my finger,
not being a ceremonial knife,
may not be called an athame,
it still does every job of one just fine.
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