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There are multiple Gods that the church have stolen for their book how are you 100% sure that it is Enki and his Wife? As for a thoughtform meh i doubt it people might talk about Satan a lot but theres no real thought behind it there just blindly going by the book. Even look at the "image" of Satan its more close to Pan then Enki so many aspects stolen we do not know who really is Satan. However its not like hes not active at all either oddly enough i have heard reports of people contacting and knowing Satan and Lilith and i personally have felt Lilith. Just because their image have been twisted and their name changed dosen't mean they won't adapt to cause some trouble hehe.
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ushi if you think satan is a hebrew term you know nothing at all. Satan derived from the far east this information was told from him directly there was a town called satana in india where they practiced sacred mantras like satanama ''SA'' meaning infinity ''TA'' meaning life ''NA'' meaning death ''MA'' meaning rebirth satan means god or infinite life when there is no longer need for death and rebirth. I can tell you have never channeled a demon in your life.
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Satan is the jewish word for enemy. Satanma is a chant and also a word (which I know about) made from a completely different country. Also in relation is his name Satya- which means complete truth. The word Satan is much newer than these terms. The words demon and angel were used interchangably untill about a few hundred years ago. Am I putting you down? No. Enki has a strict rule of no discord between fellow Satanists.
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I think the problem is like other religions everyone has different views mine is personally the idea for stan did come from enki as in the storyline giver of knowledge however his imag came from gods such as pan and poseidion.

You have laveyan satanism which basically defines satan as an idea.

Then you have theistic satansim either worshiping satan,set or enki.

I personally stand more with the enki worshippers because every single other sect I have checked out ask youu to dediate your soul to satan, this is a very unsatanic thing to do! The God who gave you freedom doesn't want your dedication he wants you to live!

I believe at least lavaeyan satanism tried to derive a lot of ideas from crowleys

"Do what thou wilt shall be the whole of law" I believe in this statement very well I merely state it here because the arguments should stop what is right for one is not right for another, also because your will should not coincide with any other beings as you are a unique individual with you own goals.

Enki=Very beneficial being

Satan=I don't know if I believe to be a being rather a thoughtform

Set=Erm I have mixed feelings towards this deity

Baphomet=Sure it was created in the 16th century and many satanists have claimed it as their own but it actually very much mor jewih it represents the male and female aspects of deity or the universe conjoined into one force which is basic qabalistic teaching
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ushi you dont know anything about enki your not even sumarian so i dont blame you for not understanding what i just said like the hebrew language could not have created there ''advasary'' out of thin air it had to existed before. Simple common sense kid.
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And thats just plain bias. "Oh just because she's not Sumerian she doesn't know anything" I know 'Satan' is a thoughtform, I know his depictions are mixes of other gods, and I know Anu. A false light that seems so loving that's so hateful in actuality. An old being that bemoans himself and has an inferiority disorder toward his own child. Though the body rots and the mind forgets, don't you think I remember something? Blood does not matter, our own souls were there that bloody day. Enki and Damkina fostered the first woman, Enki and Ninorsag the first male.
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No offense, but you do sound bias.
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Well, Satanists practically aim to be like the 'selfish of self.' I like to think of it as, 'sissy-self.' Some take Satan as an actual deity, and some don't, but some rather see themselves as gods or goddesses. Well, partly it is true that a Satanist would see his or herself as a deity, because the idea is, behind a Christian perspective, is that knowledge will make a person god-like. You see a Christian, will only need to know to fear their god and follow in His footsteps. I am my own god. I would most definitely say that some Satanists could get to that point, on many levels of power. My imagination runs wild, and my theories are just theories on top of theories. The idealistic and classical Satanist, that comes to mind, which is true, is one of no emotion, no 'human' emotion, one who is inexplicably lacking of any sort of compassion. This sort of person is the kind that just might make you the creeps with a gut feeling. One can become 'evil' through actions, or inherited by blood, in some beliefs. I am going to get controversial and settle something(s) here.

There are spiritual boundaries as to how much one can let their take of their spiritual realm of their path affect them, or that connects them to their abilities and susceptibilities. This is why I have this idea that if someone commits a sin, and this a just a reversed-engineered concept of my own out of the holy bible, then that person has opened a door way that tares away at their moral fiber. A person will get things coming and going, so to speak. That is why I have that saying, 'The wages of sin is eventually death, by Death.' That is why I don't put my nose into other people's business(es), and that is why I don't do anything foolish that I am not willing to pay consequences for, or ready to 'counteract.' Such as, even befriending a friend's girlfriend. Nothing will tare up lives and friendship faster than even simply having a relationship of friendship with another person's 'spouse.' I also tell some of my friends, 'Why do you let these sort of things into your life?' I guess they just don't see the things the way I do. I guess that is why I went on a health streak of about 8 months straight of being sick free, because I avoided many things. I will say being peaceful truly gives a person a sound mind, sound spirit and sound body.

Who says a Satanist can't be both wise and selfish? I think there is obviously a course of self-actualized perimeters. Generally, a Satanist will be more willing acknowledging of Christianity or Yahweh's force. Jews are a different story. They are said to be Yahweh's chosen people. It makes sense that Jews don't believe their Messiah has come yet (ever yet), because at first they crucified their own lord, to make that atonement, yet it is because the world, as they so believe, is still against them, and that is to say that their lord will, this time, be able to completely save them. Then they will say their Messiah has came. Christians believe in a second coming, yet Jews don't. You see, Yeshua, Jesus, is and was selfless for what he did. He is considered Yahweh's Son.

I don't necessarily believe in different types of Satanism, but flavors, because it's practically all the same aspect that a Satanist will get at. I'll have a coke, my friend will have grape soda, but we are having our drinks together in friendship. LOL! A drink is a drink. A path is a path, but whichever way they resonate is the way that they make their dwelling within the land that they live in. I am a pagan just like any other pagan, but the flavor may be drastically different. I don't know where Satanism gets the word sin from, but it is all too biblical. What I think it really gets at, is simply enjoying oneself, not that they believe in sin, because if one were to believe in sin they then would have to believe in things of the spirit; such as, the fruits of the flesh. Witches don't believe in sin either. Satanism has 'sin,' but it is a number of rules, more like a reed than anything else. I like the attitude and psychodrama.

The way that I see psychodrama is the way when one doesn't have that mindset where they enter a ritual or say a chant with question, in mind, but that everything they do is something worth without a doubt, being that what they do is, is everything that it is, and nothing else: belief. I pull a black mass, to worship myself, but that isn't necessarily the case. Satanists see themselves as their own god or goddesses, yet also worship and believe in Satan. You see, having a god or a goddess means you are like attached to that deity, you are that god/dess and you may worship that god/dess. That is why when one evokes a deity, in ritual, they become that deity. You understand now? Invoking is where one is asking for a deity to like actually take over their body, by like possession. In voodoo it is called taking a ride. It can be very dangerous. Then again, not. I do something like that, I just lock up, start to sweat and mutter.

The general occultist, not cultist, will start to study things like how Lucifer was once one of the five that was directly before the throne of Yahweh. There are four at the quarters, one that looks like a man, an eagle, a lion and an ox. Interestingly enough those are the four animals that are represented animals of the elements. These angels are called cherubs. They are said to have six wings. Each cherub is a representation or is said to have dominion over various animals on the earth. The cherub that looks like an eagle is associated with all the creatures that fly. Cherub with that looks like a lion has dominion over the wild animals on the land. The cherub that looks like a human has dominion over humans, what else? The cherub that looks like the ox has dominion over domesticated animals. That is why I always call Taurus people domesticated animals; always wants to be secure and well groomed. LOL! So there is a fifth one, who was said to be located right above the throne. I don't know what he is said to look like, but this cherub had dominion over the creatures that swim and the reptiles, or I should say fish, because it wraps it all up. Then that is sort of symbolic of this cherub for having dominion over fish of the sea, because the word sea is synonymous for, 'as in the sea of people.' Our of the sea, means somewhere from the population of.

The cherubs are considered like the four elemental kings of creation, simply. So then there are the four angelic beings of the four quarters, that supposedly actually watch, while going to and fro. Then there are said to be the four elemental kings, who oppress. So then there are said to be the four angelic elemental oppressors of the four quarters. Thinking like an occultist, where everything mixes there are matches.

I guess if I can sail the seven seas, I guess that means I would have to travel to various parts of the world. Really, I seriously believe that since Satan is lord of the world, He and his Kingdom actually resides within the air, that meets with the ground. I say that because the talk about seven realms of heaven, then there must be seven realms of the hells. Then I would correlate those realms with the seven principalities. Well, that makes sense that Christians have their belief in putting on their armor, everyday, because if this kingdom of Satan is within and on the land, where the air meets the land, then what do you know? Then there is that saying the representation of the Kingdom of Heaven, reside in Jerusalem. Which means, and I say this as a theory, for everything greatly physical then there must be a spiritual realm to that physical function.

For example, my house is my sanctuary. I reside in my home and I wish it to be everything I see fit as my sanctuary. Whatever energies I let be, then that is the flavor of function it has. It is a barrier, it is a structure; it's sound. Like how symbolically sound and virtuous as a cube, and as it your home is a cube. Well, usually cube like. I would like to live in a sphere like house, because spheres resemble the spirit. Monolith, perhaps?

Satanist is a Satanist, but what flavor?
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Re: Satanism.
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I was going to say one last thing. Well, many things that are going to come to mind. A little grounds on the word anti and anti-christ, which will put more emphasis on the being one's own Satan, and how all deities are that Satan, but not Satan, as himself necessarily. Also a meaning behind the word and or name, Satan. I will also mention what it is like to call anything not of Satanism, evil, from a Satanist's perspective. Then I will answer that question, 'How is it that one is a Satanist, but he believes and knows stuff about the bible, or at least makes use of that information?'

I personally believe, anti means; in place of. Anti-christ, then would mean; in place of Christ. Well, this goes back to how, in christianity, that there are basically two sides, either Yahweh's or Satan's, in that perspective. That thing I said about how I believe the clip-off resides on the land, where the air meets the land. So if there is the idea that there are two sides, in a perspective, and in correlation to 'correct' use of the word, anti, then I would guess that the one who does not yet sit on the throne has to would make those who are one Yahweh's side say that Satan is the adversary. Simple as that. But the actual anti-christ is simply an embodiment of an actual individual, and apparently there are many, anti-christs.

The Satanist perspective is that, we don't explicitly say we dislike Christians, it is Christianity that some may have a problem with. The religion of those people, not the people, but evidently because there is this god, called, Yahweh, who says you're either against me or with me, then that would make some enemies. Same as would a Satanist would think, if you are not with me, then perhaps you're against me. It is especially noted, in my beliefs, because I believe in realms and the principalities of those realms, on the plane of the earth. But because I made a cross-reference to that eerily similar characteristics with another, then that would say, 'Hey this makes sense, so this is what I am going to intuitively believe; so there are sides, after all.' And it is no wonder, why I had this gifted clairaudient man, walk up to me and ask if I was a mercenary cultist? Well, I am considered a cultist by a perspective, in that I think Christianity is evil, because it does opposes my practiced path. So with this usually unexplained assumption, naturally, a Satanist will take the quotations out of the word, evil, when pertaining it to not only Christianity, but all those who oppose it or oppress it, or the Satanist himself.

I am really a shaman by heart, but I am so far out there, on my own plane that it is no wonder why witches just don't get me, and why some Satanists don't understand my wording, but there are those who are few that do, which is interesting. Well, I say I am really a shaman by heart, because I am just here to dwell in my land, and through Satanism that is the way I see fit. I wasn't born into any path, but Christianity. I believe the bible, but I don't follow it or believe in it. I like the spiritual knowledge that it holds. Yet I also believe and work with the general beliefs just about any pagan has, because I know how to work with the craft as the way that I do. But it is like the shaman, they see people and through them, they choose a way to find balance and dwell within their land, they are like intermediaries for a group of people, and know medicine in its forms. They can also live for themselves, if they wish. The world we live in isn't 'that' traditional way of dwelling one would think of, when I say that I dwell within the land, but that living in modern times is traditional in itself. I don't make gold, I go find it, and I may tell others how in what way to find it, and simply use the craft to move on. Only a fool would try to take alchemy literally. You question the world, you become lost, just as you question your craft, the craft then leaves you, but what is lost before being found? Life's a journey and some nature walks have no end. I wasn't born into the craft, or from those who are of covens. I am a rebel, I am a nimrod. I actually believe in a shaman prophecy, when there will come a time where everything will go back to the way it was, before settlers. I could believe in flying saucers and that Adam and Eve came down in those things, as a creation story, and that those who brought Adam and Eve are actually our gods, and will come again to check on us. I also believe, and it naturally shows itself, that if one doesn't have a faith, they stand by nothing, no power; no direction. A man without a faith is truly a naked man, but like all men, man can see that he is naked so he wears clothes. What else does man need to know?

I don't know anything about nothing, but that I like nature and water falls, and the feeling I get when the wind tells me it is conquering.
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Re: Satanism.
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I really enjoyed reading your posts MrGreen.
By the way, I'm a Taurus and I do like my security! =)
You said you had an 8mo streak of no illness? That's wonderful! My husband, daughter and I are nearing a 2 year streak and still counting! My only enemy is allergies and an occasional hereditary cluster headache. We can't always win, but we can try.
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