Anything that can be visibly seen. Not this spiritual nonsense like rain spells. "Ooh, I caused it to rain by my influence!" No, you just got lucky... Unless you can make it snow in the middle of July in Texas.
Re: Let's get this straight. By: andreipok / Beginner
Post # 10 Jul 13, 2012
You can consider magic the manipulation of probability. There are many rules in magic. And if you don't believe it'll not work. This 3d world is energy very condensed not like in the others(except ddimensiones below us), that's why there will be a negative possibility at some spells.
Ok, as was already stated, you can't become a vampire or werewolf, etc. A glamour spell may change how others see you, but won't physically change you. It was also said that what you see on tv isn't real. But unless you're willing to study and learn what is possible, don't say it isn't real. I don't know anything about rain in TX, I didn't have the foresight to check their weather report before the topic was posted. But I do know things I've done and my friends have done are very real, even if some weren't things you can see with your eyes.
You're being a little baby and I just don't like you enough at this point to even try to explain real magic to you
"Not this spiritual nonsense like rain spells. "Ooh, I caused it to rain by my influence!" No, you just got lucky"
Oh so because people can make it rain but they can't become werewolves it isn't worth your time and its stupid? Then please leave here along with your Atheist opinions (I say that because all the Atheists I know just say that this is all just getting lucky)
We aren't things from TV shows so we can't do things visibly seen and if you learned anything before complaining about this here then you'd know magic is using energy
So just give up now if you want something you can see because clearly you know nothing and you don't appear to want to take the time to learn and you devalue what is real anyway
Most spells that seem like they'd be in a movie are fake, and yes, rain spells work, wind spells work if you know how, heat spells work depending on the intensity of the heat spell, you can heat a day up, but you can't make a fire, the summoning, luck, love, and sickness/hurt spells usually work, unless it is obviously fake, about half the spells or less on the site work, I have no idea how the BS spells got on the list... Also, if you're going to think that it's not real, it wont work, simple, if you don't believe you can swim you wont be able to swim.
"Enlightenment isn't something that can be given, you have to discover it yourself."
Correct! There are some specific things you can do or study to help the process, but asking me to enlighten you is sort of like asking me to go to the gym and lift weights until you become buff.
"Oh so because people can make it rain but they can't become werewolves"
That's pretty accurate. Magick is all about probability change, and while it may not be able to adjust to probability of rain very far in either direction, there is no apparent probability of changing species.
I just call it like I see it. Of course on spiritual journeys, a good teacher can help a student toward enlightenment, but the student has to want it and reach it on their own.
