but is catholics imitating what they learned from pagans centuries ago--
i must say i read the catholics bishops wear amethst
February Birthstone Amethyst Violet Quartz Crystal Worn by Catholic Bishops
i wonder if they learned a long time ago about the knowledge of amethysts healing power
i found this too on the net
do any other catholics/ christians believe in crystal healing and a...Spirituality Discussion
im catholic, and i use crystal healing, i used to get drained, and would build up negativity, i wear amethyst and clear crystal bracelets, and have a amethyst crystal on the coffee table.
maybe im a catholic witch.
also the cape the bishop and pope wears sounds like a carbon copy of zeus'es Aegis
An aegis ( /ids/), from Greek , is a large collar or cape worn in ancient times to display the protection provided by a high religious authority or the holder of a protective shield
there seems to me to be a trend here-- what is you opinion?
Re: catholicism/ pagan roots By: Brysing Moderator / Adept
Post # 2 May 29, 2011
All religions, over countless centuries, have "borrowed" from others.
I wonder how many Catholics realise that a recognised "best number" of a coven is thirteen?
Jesus and twelve Apostles!
So was Jesus a witch? It would appear so!
Brysing....you're awesome. You made my day with that post.
Do you know how angry that makes religion teachers? I do. I used to say things like that in school all the time! I made a deacon turn bright red once. Now that is a sight!
Christmas trees (Yule Protection)
Easter eggs (the Lady/Ostara)
Easter bunny (the Lord/Ostara)
The Virgin Mary holding Jesus (Isis and Horus)
St. Brigit (Celtic Goddess Brigid)
The trinity doesn't exist in the bible! It was created to convert celtic pagans.
The godhead doesn't exist in the bible! (Father,Son,Holy Spirit/Maiden,Mother,Crone)
These things are all adopted pagan beliefs adopted to convert pagans into Christianity. Yes if you learn the history of religion, Roman took from Greek, Greek took from Egyptian, and the list goes on and on. Christianity took from anything that it competed with. At the time the Egyptian following of Isis was a huge competitor that just about equaled Christianity in dominancy. That is why Catholocism is one of the only Christian sects that hold Mary on a pedestal.
I believe that a man like Jesus may have existed at some point in time, but it has been expanded on and stretched so far that in my opinion the religion has lost its original meaning.
Don't believe in magick! But Jesus turned water into wine.
Don't believe in magick! But Moses parted the sea.
Don't believe in prophets/psychics! But Elijia was a powerful one.
The truth is out there for all to see. It just takes a keen eye and an open mind. If you are Christian, more power to you. But know your roots.
Re: catholicism/ pagan roots By: Brysing Moderator / Adept
Post # 5 May 29, 2011
The problem with Catholicism, or all of Christianity for that matter, is that it has nothing to do with Jesus. It is all the teachings and writings of Saul of Tarsus. (St Paul), and the Council of Nicea.
Take,for instance, celibate priests. Supposedly to "follow the life of Jesus". But Jesus was married! You don't believe it? Read your bible; it is all in there. Note how many times Jesus is addressed as "rabbi". This, in a Jewish community where it would be impossible for an unmarried man to be a rabbi. Ask any of your Jewish friends!
I also another thing christianity likes to twist. A woman in the old jewish ways was considered a "virgin" until they conceived their first child. Then they were married a second time, as it somehow consecrated the marriage itself by having a child. So she was technically a "virgin" in jewish eyes but in reality she had experienced intercourse, which is different than we perceive virginity nowadays.
The women used to also give the men hung on crosses mandrake root tinctured wine. Mandrake is an anesthetic and can cause a deep sleep if enough is taken. Even more still and they can die. But with this said, Joseph, the friend who had Jesus taken down early placed him in his own private tomb. Which means they could have taken care of his wounds and three days later he could very well have been seen walking around.
There are sightings of a man with exact teachings as Jesus named "Isa" or "Yuz" in India who supposedly died a little after reaching 100 years old.
I like the concept of Jesus. I really do. He had a nice idea and its sad that Christianity had to turn it around into what they did.
Re: catholicism/ pagan roots By: Brysing Moderator / Adept
Post # 7 May 29, 2011
By the way, the bible gives the idea that the word Rabbi means "Master". This is not strictly true. The word means "teacher". A Rabbi is not only well educated in Jewish law, he is also expected to give advice on all aspects of Jewish life. This includes advice on the duties and responsibilities of married life; and the rearing of children. No Jew would ask such advice from an unmarried man!
Re: catholicism/ pagan roots By: Brysing Moderator / Adept
Post # 8 May 30, 2011
Whiteraven. The idea of a "virgin" birth was given as "proof" that Jesus was "divine", and the son of God, not of her husband.This was all at the Council of Nicea. As was the idea of The Immaculate Conception. That is not, as many Catholics think, of Jesus! It is that Mary was born without the "stain" of the original sin. She was the Immaculate Conception; not Jesus.
Re: catholicism/ pagan roots By: Brysing Moderator / Adept
Post # 9 May 30, 2011
Further to your post,whiteraven. You are correct in that "virgin" in ancient Jewish tradition can be a mother! But the word used at the Council of Nicea was by non-Jewish bishops, priests, and Roman theologians. The word used was exactly the same as modern usage. *before sexual intercourse."