Love spells v.free will

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Love spells v.free will
By: / Novice
Post # 1
Again, I must re-iterate a point I made earlier, as we have many join our on-line community daily. The subject is: Love spells. I have been noticing many desperate pleas from Desperate, heart-broken individuals. My sympathies are genuinely with you, as we all have had to endure the pain and grief over losing significant others, myself no exception. Please understand the nature behind the spells you beg us to perform to miraculously bring back your jilted lovers magickally in to your arms. What you ask is noble in theory, seeing how the greatest force in the Universe is indeed love. We are all born with an inherent desire to be loved and valued. It is part of the experience of being human. It gives us the feeling that we need not face this cold world alone, that we have someone to lean on in both good times and bad; Someone to share our joys, triumphs, and yes, our sorrows. We crave to be loved; we need it to grow and thrive.
But on the flip side of the same coin, we have a tendency to cling to people after they exit our lives. This is normal behaviour. We fritter the days away hoping they will regain their senses and run back to us as if nothing happened. This too is normal. However, we also have the tendency to sink into desperation, where our faculties of reason become overpowered by said heart-break, and we lose touch with reality. This is where I inject my original point (and a quote). "Tis better to have loved and lost, than never loved at all". Paraphrase, actually of a beautiful quote by Alfred Lord Tennyson. The point is this: To cast a love spell and force a person return to you if that is not their will or desire has ramifications. We are creatures of free will and therefore determine our own course of action and destination in life. When something has reached it's natural conclusion, or outlived it's utility, it always happens for some reason or other. When you opt to forcefully bind another against their free will, you are in effect tampering with Forces beyond comprehension, the Universal forces. Some may have no issue in accepting the consequences, but many do, and are very conscious of them. I speak from very personal experience and from the heart. I look back in retrospect and have the hindsight I did not possess then, and hope you all do not have to suffer the humiliations, contemptuous rejections and hostilities and other bad things that dumped on me due to my lack of wisdom and life experience at the time. Tampering with free will is a line I shan't cross again, not out of fear pre se, but rather out of respect and reverence for the Universe, and of free will. If it wasn't meant to be, quite simply and plainly, it shall not be. Everybody hurts- that too is a facet of being human. Hang in there, and look for the positive things in life; there are many we just cannot see temporarily. A cat always lands on it's feet, and so can we :)
So be careful what you wish for~ it might not just whirl back to you, it might slam you into the ground with hurricane-like fury.
Blessed Be, and may you heal and grow.
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Re: Love spells v.free will
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Post # 2
*per se*
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Re: Love spells v.free will
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Post # 3
It should also be noted that the caster, if they are an outside party performing the spell, can also experience the same types of repercussions as the one requesting the spell firstly. Take this into account before deciding to charge headlong into something like this. So think and make an educated decision. Free will of others is not something to be taken lightly.
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Bad or good is irrelevent when it comes to love spells and here is why: a. You cannot force someone against their will TO DO ANYTHING with a spell. B. All you can do is enhance feelings that are already there. C. And if it isnt fate then it wont work anyway.
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I'm just gonna post this dark secret here.
They say you can't go against free will and that is 100% true (well 99%) but you can change what someone else's will is, but going through such a task may be more than what you expect.
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Re: Love spells v.free will
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Post # 6
My point has nothing to do with morality. I am just pointing out that with everything we do, there is always a consequence attached. Think of it in a lesser degree: the actions we take in our daily lives, these actions often have consequence. A consequence is most often misunderstood to be negative in nature, but the fact is that even favourable outcomes are consequence. Ergo, they can be good, bad or even neutral dependent on the original course taken. Morality for the most part , while accepted by most as a given set of ethics to abide by, is relative in that some choose for themselves outside of the societal paradigm to craft their own ethos to abide by. Some people, for example, have no qualms taking another's life, and practise things we deem vile and reprehensible, and have no guilt in doing so. And yes, another's free will can be tampered with, they in essence become Thralls. Hence the term "enthralled". I simply was pointing out the possibility of pitfalls to be considered when making such a request in a less than stable mental state.
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Re: Love spells v.free will
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Post # 7
Free-will is defined as "Voluntary choice or decision; freedom of human beings to make choices that are not determined by prior causes or divine intervention". Just to clarify.
Definition source: Webster's Dictionary and Thesaurus for home, school and office, 2nd ed, 2002. P.151
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Re: Love spells v.free will
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Post # 8
And my point exactly, Brite. If they are inclined to be hostile or have lost the feeling for the person, these feelings and tendencies will be AMPLIFIED. Likewise, if it is a temporary rift and there are still strong feelings. To what degree is a variable unknown, but must be considered. People have a tendency to be aggressive if they feel backed into the proverbial corner. I am of the opinion that it is just best to let go, hard as it may be. If they desire to resume where they left off, that is a good thing! Notice that my post was worded to state that it is up to the person to proceed or not, but after considering such possibilities.
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By this rationality, you can say any spell directed towards a person is tampering with their free will - not just a love spell. While there are ramifications, some people will take them. Many times what we see as backlash is simply life continuing around us. As a practitioner, it's up to the individual whether or not they want to take the chance. Some people have no qualms about directing magic towards one another - myself included. I see every spell cast, every chant, as being connected with the forces around us which includes people.

This delves into free will versus destiny. Can you cast spells against someone's free will or is it destiny that you cast spells on them to attract them to you? It may be you were meant to tap into the forces that be and return this person to you. This entire experience was to get you interesting in learning the mechanics of magic. Far more than one practicing witch got her start from a broken heart. And what better way to get confirmation that you can do magic than to have your love return to you? It starts a chain reaction into learning.
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Re: Love spells v.free will
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Post # 10
I agree completely, Sundrops. The post was not to dissuade any from ultimately making a choice. Rather, it was to make a point to really ponder the possible outcome(s) of their final decision.
I am not here to point in one direction or other. The choice is ultimately up to the person. I was simply pointing out that we tend to act rashly in a state of mind where our emotions overpower and subdue our rationale, and thus cloud our ability to make rational and well-thought out decisions. We do learn via trial-and error. jumping off a cliff after looking around and deciding to do it (or not) is one thing, whereas doing it blindly and in haste is another.
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