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I've been in the nonhuman community a VERY long time. Longer than most I would believe, and with many disputes rising about being born nonhuman or it being purely spiritual have me in confusion and theorizing about the truth of the matter.
On the side of being born nonhuman, there lies many plot holes and inconsistencies. If you were born a werewolf, then that means your parents would also have to be werewolves, your grandparents, and so on. It would be traceable all the way back to the first werewolf. If it is dominant, then everyone in your family would be a werewolf. If it is recessive, then everyone would have to carry the gene or gene sets. This is a problem, mostly due to how rare even werewolves are, and how if so many people carried it or were werewolves for it to have to "spread", then werewolves would not be rare. Werewolves would be everywhere and everyone would know about them. There is no way a gene expression could go unnoticed throughout history for everyone in one family to be a wolf or wolf carrier and you to be the only "born shifter". Therefore shifting must not be an inherited trait.
On the spiritual side, there are also many inconsistencies. If spirituality is the only key to physically shifting, then why can't everyone who is nonhuman in soul shift? How come the majority of people who attempt to shift fail, despite being mermaid incarnates or wolf therians? Why are so many people able to mentally and phantom shift, but physically they cannot? You could argue they just don't try, but I have met plenty of otherkin and therians who have tried p shifting for years, but they cannot do it. Therefore, shifting must not be a purely spiritual phenomenon either.
I have come up with an answer that appeases both fronts and makes the most sense out of any theory. I call it Incarnation Mutations.
In this theory, I like to say "If you are meant to be it, you already are it". This may seem confusing, however it makes a lot of sense. If you are meant to be a dragon in this life, then you already are a dragon in this life. If you are meant to be a wolf shifter in this life, then no matter your parents or your heritage, you are already a wolf shifter.
Expanding upon this, i believe that due to fate and destiny, because you are meant to be (insert species here) then your soul mutates your genes and phenotype upon incarnation, bypassing the need for your parents to all be shifters. If you were sent here to be a dragon, then your purpose has mutated your body to be one, regardless of what it had to overcome.
This theory appeases the genetic argument because yes, if your mom was meant to be a wolf and your dad was meant to be a wolf, then you would be a wolf from genetics. But it is also spiritual, because your soul and destiny have influenced your body upon incarnation.
Otherkin has nothing to do with physical shifting. It's a spiritual belief of having the soul of something else, having reincarnated from it, or having an incredibly strong connection to it. Nobody can physically shift, so there's no reason to have this belief. (To be clear, otherkin is a completely valid identity in my opinion, but physically shifting is made up, and anyone who claims they can do it, otherkin or not, is spreading misinformation.)
im a therian and i agree whith rhododendron you can onlt mental and phamtom shift but also if you belive it to a certaain extent you mind will trick you in to being that way like sneezing near wolfsbane or being entergetic on the full moon or tired on the new moon
You are human. Even if you identify as an otherkin on the physical you are human. The reason you cannot physically shift is because humans cannot do so naturally, no matter what you identify as it goes against physical law. Magic is an energy that is found in nature, it does not create dramatic, instant, physical changes but effects the energy around us to bring a natural change to our lives. If you feel your soul is another creature, it is on a spiritual level, not a physical one. Spiritually and astrally you can shapeshift and transform, but here on the physical plane you cannot because of the restrictions of the restrictions of the plane we live on. Otherkin, as far as I am aware, are not genetic traits like blue eyes, it is spiritual, the spirit that reincarnates was not meant for a human body, in this lifetime, that is what causes the disconnect and the astral form of an animal with the physical form of a human.
Are you just saying that because you did not try it and have no belief or did you try it and did not work, try it out if you did not do it and believe as much as possible, anything is possible with belief
No, he was explaining the possibilities of magick, its limitations, and real werewolves. You should be grateful he actually explained his stance and tried educating people on magick at all since he normally just leaves a single ''won't happen''. I assume you're just willfully ignorant and wish to live in fantasy land, so I will remind you this site has a rule against roleplaying. If you wish to actually learn about magick there are plenty of articles and forums to help you on your path
Serena, yes. Magick has limits. In the astral realm, however, most things will be quite possible. But the astral realm is not to same as the physical realm, where we currently reside.
I think people that reacted here saying that its impossible to physically change with magic didn't read this page all the way....because there isn't a thing about this text that say it is really possible, and its mostly about spiritual shifting, and spiritual shifting or phantom shifting is not physicall at all.
Altough I am not completely agreeing with the reactions like: ''Magic isn't able to physically change anything'' I mean healing magic is able to speed up a healing process right? Isn't that very physicall, but on the other side people are also partially right about the Physical Shifting...it indeed wont let you grow wings, horns and wont do too much to your physical strength or speed BUT: it can have a slight effect nontheless, like your eye color becoming brighter or more intense, or enhancing up your senses a little...
They talk about physical shifting in this article. They leave a door open to a ''maybe'' and this article is about otherkin but gets certain facts wrong [and I get it is this person personal opinion, but it does give misinformation about otherkin which is what people were rebutting] Regarding healing, beauty, weight loss, and other spells that affect the physical, they actually aren't. Beauty and weight loss are combined with physical actions [new beauty routine, new exercise routine] with charging the energy to bring the change faster. Healing spells work the same, the energy can reduce the pain, and it speeds healing by focusing energy on a small injury, or moving energy away from an area which is blocking healing [say a block in chakras] no physical change is occurring, it all affects energy. Otherkin are spiritual, spiritual and astral shifting are real things, physically it doesn't occur. There are those religions who believe their wisest spiritual leaders can physically shift, but with zero evidence and it is so incredibly rare to reach that point, it's ignored because we can conclude [until proven otherwise] it is a legend and not actually real.
I think the confusion lies in the author referring to genetics and arguments over the effects of genetics on the potential to be otherkin. Genes and heredity are physical processes, that affect and define physical traits and tendencies. So this leans the statement towards a physical perspective.
While I think the concept is intriguing, that being the idea spirit [or even karma, by extrapolation] can influence a person's physical traits to some unknown degree. I can see how the idea would have some logical merit if applied to certain philosophies, but for this specific situation I find it flawed a bit.
First, if it is directly referring to physical/bodily quirks, I can see it at most offering a predisposition towards some bodily quirks. For example if someone is spiritually tied/kin to a winged being then there might be a higher chance of having a hunchback. Even then such ideas are more playful whimsy as investigating even cursory family history can reveal and explain such occurrences. The only caveat I can think of is the idea/philosophy that incarnations are chosen by the soul, and maybe a being would feel inclined to choose to incarnate into a family where something, like the afore mentioned hunch, would be likely to happen. Even then under this theory any soul isn't likely to waste their time with such a detail unless it also served a purpose or facilitated some sort of karmic/developmental lesson.
Second, if this is referring to some spiritual equivalent to genetics, that is even more troublesome to define and wrangle into sense. Energy (and therefore soul) are guided by consciousness and emotion, not physical building blocks. Most often any image specifically held on to is mostly a result of familiarity. If someone 'grows up' incarnating as a human, then that image will feel more normal and proper. But, say, if a soul spent an incarnation or two in a totally different place or even vibratory level, and lived a life or three as something other than human early on, then those experiences would feel more normal and familiar. So one would feel more like a wolf because they have spent time living as one, and the feeling/experience stuck or was otherwise formative. Same could go for having lived as a dragon, or some being that was humanoid but with different animal traits, or whatever else you might want to list here.
So, on a spiritual level I would say that genetics don't have influence, but experience does.
Extremely late reply... but yes, there are some ways a person might instigate the sensations and experiences of phantom limbs. And though people who are Otherkin/therian might have a predisposition to this phenomenon, anyone has the potential to achieve such an experience. Itis a function of energy-working/aura working and body-mapping. Body mapping being a psychological/nervous system phenomena seen to be responsible for the medical versio of phantom limbs- from which we draw the name.
The process begins with meditation to be calm and present, and to use focus to build a conscious awareness of the physical body. Then to use visualization to connect with the idea of the energy we radiate through and outward from ourselves as an aura. As you start to gain familiarity with the feeling of presence and shape beyond the surface of your body, imagine and visualize the look weight and feel of a specific shape or condition that you want to experience. For example consider a simple limb like a tail. Be conscious of how it would extend from the very base of your spine. Imagine the weight of it the press of the floor/chair/bed it might be resting on. Feel the slight shifts and tensions of the muscles of the lower back and hips as they move and shift the tail. Extend that feeling by imagining how the muscles and tendons might feel along its flexible length. ... And so on.
As you put focused attention onto the idea and process, you bring it to life in your mind, committing thought and energy you direct into the imagined form as if it was a more complicated/sculpted psi-ball. Or an extension of your aura as if a section of clay drawn out from the core of a sculpture.
Repetition and time can create a slow pattern of thought and sensation that the mind gradually learns to call on more and more quickly and in easier and more ivid detail. Practiced enough and, like any other exercise, such a personal thoughtform could be called forward in the amount of time it takes to form the thought.
It is an interesting exercise, and can bring some measure of catharsis to people looking for such an experience. But I caution that it is like candy; A wonderful moment of discovery with little nutritional value. Hrmful if over-indulged. But worth trying, and can inspire or even envigorate Self discovery when explored in moderation.
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