Exorcisms in Catholicism is considered "Catholic magic" by many. Religious ritual and magick ritual runs hand in hand. Just because some religions frown upon witches doesn't make them any less guilty of using magick. If you ever notice, it is "witchcraft" that is supposedly evil. No where does the Bible say magick is evil. If it did, it would be condemning Jesus, Moses and any saint that proceeded them.
Catholic masses are nothing but magick. It was actually considered "holy magic" in the renaissance times and this was seen as acceptable. If you look into Hermetic magick you'll find much of the same archetypes and prayers that are Kabbalist/Jewish/Christian based, as is seen in the well known LBRP. Gnosticism is also a magickal path in relation to Christianity.
You'll find that most of the symbols and tools used by Pagans today are held as so sacred because they have been cherished and maintained by the Catholic church for hundreds (thousands?) of years.
This is true of the Pentagram, the chalice... so on, so forth.
I have been to a few churches that actively utilize the energy gathered in Mass, and it is somewhat alarming. But then the people running those churches were sketchy at best.
Your theory is very sound, logical, and reasonable. I mean exorcisms are performed not only by different religions but different denominations of those religions which believe at least slightly different. It is likely more to do with energy and faith rather than a specific religious belief like magick as many people believe different things but achieve the same goals.
Do you think others are christian wiccans because they cant release that feeling that hell could be real?
This one line could be taken negatively, but I won't take it that way. I'm A Christian Wiccan I guess and I personally believe that to be true, partially. If one ever believed hell existed in the first place, truly believed, I doubt they could just get rid of that belief but another thing is you can't believe in heaven without hell and I want to believe in heaven. I at the same time ask the aid of pagan gods. Now that may seem sacrileges or wrong but I'm not thinking that I'm actually asking another god for help but the aspect they represent. For instance I've asked Athena for aid when a test was coming up and I was trying to cast a spell to improve my absorption of knowledge because she's the Greek goddess of knowledge and wisdom, I've asked Hecate to empower my spells because to me she represents magickal energy itself, etc... Anyway I'm not just a Christian Wiccan because I want to avoid hell because I tell people sometimes that I may burn for my sins I'm not able to ask forgiveness for, but I have hope I'm wrong and I'm overly dramatic. Either way I do want to avoid eternal punishment, but the opposite is what I really want to experience and not just to avoid the pain.
excorsim just takes strong spiritual power. doesn't matter what faith, as long as your spirit is strong.
perhaps some are, but i remember looking into being a christian wiccan when i was starting out, because it isn't god i don't believe in, but jesus. i decided after farther research, chatholisism in general isn't for me. a fear of hell was never in my mind. i've never feared death nor hell, and i was raised in a town of christian extreemists.
i am Christian and we believe in hell but not the way lots do. my church does not believe in magick but i do not believe it is wrong to do Magick. i think hell is just a place of misery when you have sinned and you have to be really bad to go there. just because you are not religio=us does not mean you are going against god if you believe n something different by all means believe what you want to believe you can deny hell. but you cannot deny god.
Kevin.
The Church cannot deny magick when they claim transubstantiation of the eucharist and wine into the body and blood of Jesus--taken from god eating rituals of the Egyptians. What is the incense for? To make it smell pretty or to "bless"--magick. Why are their candles lit? It isn't for light, it is symbolic...it is magick. What are the prayers for but not to call upon the attention of certain powers? Prayer did not originate with Christianity, it's been a part of every form of spirituality since the beginning. Prayer or petitioning is apart of magick. Prayer is used to protect, heal, and banish negativity. Amulets (in the form of medalions of saints and angels, "holy" pictures, jewelry, and crosses) are used for protection.
Like I said, the Bible is not against "magick". Never is that said. It only has claims against those who hurt people, be it with actions, words, or magick. It is also against divination. Even the translations of "never suffer a witch to live" and other such quotes is mistranslations skewed purposely when such things as the inquisition and witchhunts became popular. That particular quote is actually translated "never suffer a poisoner to live".
People can and do deny that the Hebrew god is the God. Most pagan do. Until Christianity, YHWH was the only god of Jewish and Pre-Jewish (Kabbalist) religion. There were and are still many other views on the source of creation. Christianity would never have become so large if it was not accepted in Rome and forced upon its people. Than more rulers forced it upon their people. That is the only reason it is the largest religion. It isn't that it is more correct, it is that it was more forceful throughout history. There are also athiests that believe in no higher power.
Religion is human made by people who perceive spirituality through their own perspective. Therefore there is no right or wrong deity. Only a difference of personal opinion.
